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Re: Cooper S servo brake pipes for a dry car
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:51 pm
by AndyPen
Nice neat job there Andrew
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Re: Cooper S servo brake pipes for a dry car
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:44 pm
by minime
Hi all,
I ran my lines behind and under the servo with the idea of keeping the lines out of harms way, they took a bit time but certainly look better than some of the line set ups I've seen.
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Re: Cooper S servo brake pipes for a dry car
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 10:32 am
by 'S'-type
This picture was recently on Pete's Sporting Minis page. Owned by John Adair in 1995 a very original one owner1071 Morris with less than 30k
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Not the clearest of shots but it may help the discussion It looks like a dry car which would seem to support Dave's theory that it's a wet/dry thing. So all1071s and pre- Sept '64 970 and 1275 to the side, and later 970/1275 over the top.
Re: Cooper S servo brake pipes for a dry car
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:03 pm
by Peter Laidler
What is that year car you are busy restoring in NZ Minime? What is the servo. Certainly a good job, like many of those shown here
Re: Cooper S servo brake pipes for a dry car
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 4:57 pm
by Toby
1071bob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:58 pm
I don't think it was an Austin/Morris thing, my car is a Morris and it had the pipes clipped to the inner wing. I'm sure the pipe runs were changed when the hydro came along, there isn't a lot of room to route the pipes the original way with the hydro flexi pipe and bracket under the m/cylinder area. If you are making your own pipes to the early spec here are the pipe dimensions.
As Bob said it had nothing to do with an Austin/Morris thing. The route dispalyed as in Andy's and Bob's pic are the correct routing for a 1071.
Dave, it might be worth mentioning for what kind of S you need to know the routing?
P.S. good to see copper unions being used Bob!
Re: Cooper S servo brake pipes for a dry car
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 6:39 pm
by kit of bits
Toby wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 4:57 pm
1071bob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:58 pm
I don't think it was an Austin/Morris thing, my car is a Morris and it had the pipes clipped to the inner wing. I'm sure the pipe runs were changed when the hydro came along, there isn't a lot of room to route the pipes the original way with the hydro flexi pipe and bracket under the m/cylinder area. If you are making your own pipes to the early spec here are the pipe dimensions.
As Bob said it had nothing to do with an Austin/Morris thing. The route dispalyed as in Andy's and Bob's pic are the correct routing for a 1071.
Dave, it might be worth mentioning for what kind of S you need to know the routing?
P.S. good to see copper unions being used Bob!
Hi toby
It’s a dry 1275 S as I said in the first section, it is in the change over period dry to wet.
Dave.
Re: Cooper S servo brake pipes for a dry car
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:27 pm
by 1071bob
Toby, Good to see copper unions being used Bob!
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Not copper fittings, unions and nipples are Tecvac coated titanium,
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that should get the 'original fitment police' upset.
Came off some old F1 calipers which were being scrapped years ago.
Re: Cooper S servo brake pipes for a dry car
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:28 pm
by AndyPen
I think the dry 1275 build dates start around the time my car was built in Feb '64, and Bobs is March 64. The other one was June '64. I don't think they changed anything whilst they stayed dry. At least not from the research I have done. I also own a 64 switch over 850 with hydro, and yet early sun visors, so presumably a switch date car could run either set up?
Bob never does anything by halves Toby - his car is amazing
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Re: Cooper S servo brake pipes for a dry car
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:33 pm
by Toby
1071bob wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:27 pm
Not copper fittings, unions and nipples are Tecvac coated titanium,
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that should get the 'original fitment police' upset.
Came off some old F1 calipers which were being scrapped years ago.
Well close enough. However not many people appear to know about them being that colour.
@Andypen, am I the only one that was mad enough to have mine replated?
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Re: Cooper S servo brake pipes for a dry car
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:09 pm
by Exminiman
1071bob wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:27 pm
Toby, Good to see copper unions being used Bob!
Not copper fittings, unions and nipples are Tecvac coated titanium,
![Cool 8-)](./images/smilies/icon_cool.gif)
that should get the 'original fitment police' upset.
Came off some old F1 calipers which were being scrapped years ago.
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Nice one Bob
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Given the choice brass or titanium which one would I choose?
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Re: Cooper S servo brake pipes for a dry car
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:13 pm
by Toby
Exminiman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:09 pm
Given the choice brass or titanium which one would I choose?
The originals were copper plated otherwise they would have indeed been too weak
Re: Cooper S servo brake pipes for a dry car
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:44 am
by minime
Hi Peter, car is 1967 mk1, servo is an Australian VH44.
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