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Re: Cooper S servo brake pipes for a dry car

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:51 pm
by AndyPen
Nice neat job there Andrew ;-)

Re: Cooper S servo brake pipes for a dry car

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:44 pm
by minime
Hi all,
I ran my lines behind and under the servo with the idea of keeping the lines out of harms way, they took a bit time but certainly look better than some of the line set ups I've seen.
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Re: Cooper S servo brake pipes for a dry car

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 10:32 am
by 'S'-type
This picture was recently on Pete's Sporting Minis page. Owned by John Adair in 1995 a very original one owner1071 Morris with less than 30k
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Not the clearest of shots but it may help the discussion It looks like a dry car which would seem to support Dave's theory that it's a wet/dry thing. So all1071s and pre- Sept '64 970 and 1275 to the side, and later 970/1275 over the top.

Re: Cooper S servo brake pipes for a dry car

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:03 pm
by Peter Laidler
What is that year car you are busy restoring in NZ Minime? What is the servo. Certainly a good job, like many of those shown here

Re: Cooper S servo brake pipes for a dry car

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 4:57 pm
by Toby
1071bob wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:58 pm I don't think it was an Austin/Morris thing, my car is a Morris and it had the pipes clipped to the inner wing. I'm sure the pipe runs were changed when the hydro came along, there isn't a lot of room to route the pipes the original way with the hydro flexi pipe and bracket under the m/cylinder area. If you are making your own pipes to the early spec here are the pipe dimensions.
As Bob said it had nothing to do with an Austin/Morris thing. The route dispalyed as in Andy's and Bob's pic are the correct routing for a 1071.

Dave, it might be worth mentioning for what kind of S you need to know the routing?

P.S. good to see copper unions being used Bob!

Re: Cooper S servo brake pipes for a dry car

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 6:39 pm
by kit of bits
Toby wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2024 4:57 pm
1071bob wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:58 pm I don't think it was an Austin/Morris thing, my car is a Morris and it had the pipes clipped to the inner wing. I'm sure the pipe runs were changed when the hydro came along, there isn't a lot of room to route the pipes the original way with the hydro flexi pipe and bracket under the m/cylinder area. If you are making your own pipes to the early spec here are the pipe dimensions.
As Bob said it had nothing to do with an Austin/Morris thing. The route dispalyed as in Andy's and Bob's pic are the correct routing for a 1071.

Dave, it might be worth mentioning for what kind of S you need to know the routing?

P.S. good to see copper unions being used Bob!
Hi toby
It’s a dry 1275 S as I said in the first section, it is in the change over period dry to wet.
Dave.

Re: Cooper S servo brake pipes for a dry car

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:27 pm
by 1071bob
Toby, Good to see copper unions being used Bob!
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Not copper fittings, unions and nipples are Tecvac coated titanium, 8-) that should get the 'original fitment police' upset. :lol:
Came off some old F1 calipers which were being scrapped years ago.

Re: Cooper S servo brake pipes for a dry car

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:28 pm
by AndyPen
I think the dry 1275 build dates start around the time my car was built in Feb '64, and Bobs is March 64. The other one was June '64. I don't think they changed anything whilst they stayed dry. At least not from the research I have done. I also own a 64 switch over 850 with hydro, and yet early sun visors, so presumably a switch date car could run either set up?

Bob never does anything by halves Toby - his car is amazing ;-)

Re: Cooper S servo brake pipes for a dry car

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:33 pm
by Toby
1071bob wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:27 pm Not copper fittings, unions and nipples are Tecvac coated titanium, 8-) that should get the 'original fitment police' upset. :lol:
Came off some old F1 calipers which were being scrapped years ago.
Well close enough. However not many people appear to know about them being that colour.

@Andypen, am I the only one that was mad enough to have mine replated? :lol:

Re: Cooper S servo brake pipes for a dry car

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:09 pm
by Exminiman
1071bob wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:27 pm Toby, Good to see copper unions being used Bob!
Not copper fittings, unions and nipples are Tecvac coated titanium, 8-) that should get the 'original fitment police' upset. :lol:
Came off some old F1 calipers which were being scrapped years ago.
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Nice one Bob :lol:
Given the choice brass or titanium which one would I choose? :lol:

Re: Cooper S servo brake pipes for a dry car

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:13 pm
by Toby
Exminiman wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:09 pm Given the choice brass or titanium which one would I choose? :lol:
The originals were copper plated otherwise they would have indeed been too weak

Re: Cooper S servo brake pipes for a dry car

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:44 am
by minime
Hi Peter, car is 1967 mk1, servo is an Australian VH44. :)