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Re: Introducing default 20mph speed limits...

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:57 pm
by mk1coopers
Time to invest in red flags and sensible walking shoes... :roll:

Re: Introducing default 20mph speed limits...

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 1:21 pm
by Stewartp
In South Australia, the urban default is 50kph, some areas 40 kph. Passing emergency vehicles or school buses with lights flashing and road works 25kph school zones with under 18 year Olds present 25kph.(40 for those in the rest of Australia ). Hard to tell the difference between a 17&18 year old when driving. Open Rd 80, 90, 100 or 110 kph. They also have habit of improving a road significantly then reduce the speed limit on it.

Re: Introducing default 20mph speed limits...

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 2:11 pm
by Peter Laidler
One saving grace for us older minis is that the ANPR and speed cameras can't lock-on to and identify the black and white number plates. Try the ANPR car parks......

Re: Introducing default 20mph speed limits...

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 2:16 pm
by Polarsilver
Peter, can we be 100% sure this is the case that UK number plates with the Black Background & White Letters cannot be read by these Static & Mobile Cameras ?

Re: Introducing default 20mph speed limits...

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 2:27 pm
by GraemeC
Stewartp wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 1:21 pm They also have habit of improving a road significantly then reduce the speed limit on it.
In the UK they simply reduce the speed limit so they don't have to maintain the roads to the same level.
(even noticed how many NSL roads are now 50mph - well the maintenance standards aren't as high on a 50mph road)

Re: Introducing default 20mph speed limits...

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 3:29 pm
by Exminiman
GraemeC wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 2:27 pm
Stewartp wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 1:21 pm They also have habit of improving a road significantly then reduce the speed limit on it.
In the UK they simply reduce the speed limit so they don't have to maintain the roads to the same level.
(even noticed how many NSL roads are now 50mph - well the maintenance standards aren't as high on a 50mph road)
Absolutely, just follow the money.....if it was financially beneficial to have a minimum 90 MPH speed limit, then that is what we would have :lol:

Re: Introducing default 20mph speed limits...

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 3:58 pm
by Peter Laidler
Norman...., yes. the speed camera needs something positive to lock onto. The big yellow reflector that tells the camera , hello....., it's me

Re: Introducing default 20mph speed limits...

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 8:21 pm
by monkeyjim
French speed limits were reduced from 90kph to 80 but some of the mayors did not have the money to swap all the road signs so they did not do it. Unfortunately some of the speed cameras in the areas were adjusted to the new lower 80kph speed limit but the road signs were still at 90.👍
In the Creuse department area of what used to be called the Limousin now the Nouvelle Aquitaine in middle of France where I have a house the speed limits have been put back up to 90kph because they say it has no benefit due to the area being mainly countryside and sparsely populated , my local district has a population of 18 people per square km and the area is indeed mostly countryside, nearest big town is 45minutes away .
Incidentally there is a lovely private circuite about 20minutes from my place in lovely countryside.

https://www.masduclos.com/accueil-circuit

The speed limits don’t stop the French anyway, they still run around in 205’s and Renault 11 in countryside but the French domestic market must have got more powerful engines than we did as these old cars go so fast,mind you the local garage will most likely have some sort of indescribable rolled up piece of metal outside that was once a car.
As for the U.K. , well schools and built up areas should have lower limits and is there any reason to own a electric Tesla saving the planet (supposedly) when they have to be gunned everywhere .
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Re: Introducing default 20mph speed limits...

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 8:40 pm
by monkeyjim
Do we need cars that do over 100mph?

Re: Introducing default 20mph speed limits...

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 8:52 pm
by mab01uk
First Minister for Wales Mark Drakeford's New Wales' national flag - with the dragon replaced by a red snail.... :lol:

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Re: Introducing default 20mph speed limits...

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 8:58 pm
by Andrew1967
What also needs to be done is to educate pedestrians and cyclists about the rules of the road and some common sense !

Yesterday whilst driving home and down a 30 mph lane to my house, I encountered an adult cyclist cycling towards me on the wrong side of the road .. the brainless moron made absolutely NO attempt to move over to the correct side and guess who had to move to avoid him !! Now under the new rules of the road if I had hit him, as the bigger vehicle, I would have been at fault !!

And no, we don't need cars that do over 100 and 0-60 in 4 seconds ..

Re: Introducing default 20mph speed limits...

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 5:58 pm
by goff
Soon be all over UK . :lol: :lol: :lol: and 850 cc engines will be plenty big enough :lol:

Re: Introducing default 20mph speed limits...

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 6:54 pm
by goff
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Introducing default 20mph speed limits...

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 7:23 pm
by mab01uk
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Re: Introducing default 20mph speed limits...

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 7:30 pm
by mab01uk
I hope Welsh cyclists remember to give 1.5M clearance when they overtake us car drivers!

Re: Introducing default 20mph speed limits...

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 8:34 pm
by AndyPen
Have to smile at these, and boy does it feel slow at times. Found myself humming the Who song's lines 'creepy crawly' - no idea where that came from?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXT4aM7Py1I&t=5s

Re: Introducing default 20mph speed limits...

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 3:12 pm
by goff
new transport in Wales :lol: , zero polution also :o

Re: Introducing default 20mph speed limits...

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:45 pm
by mk1coopers
Wales, lovely place, what is the government there doing, what will be the impact on tourism, will there be more road rage, what will be the impact on the economy….

Last time I went to France it was 30kph with speed humps all through the villages, no interest in going back, won’t look to book a holiday to Wales again now, don’t drive into London if I can avoid it, such a shame the U.K. seems to be taking backwards steps when we used to innovate and drive change for the better.

Re: Introducing default 20mph speed limits...

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:13 am
by AndyPen
The petition launched on Monday is getting close to numbers that reflect the voting in Wales!! It has gone up by 250 since I started to write this message!!!

https://petitions.senedd.wales/petition ... 6E_xXSUp-c


"almost at the 440,000 people mark of people who voted for Labour in the last Senedd election and not far off the 559,000 people who voted for devolution in the first place".

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Re: Introducing default 20mph speed limits...

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 1:02 pm
by Stewartp
It's infectious,we had cyclists here in Adelaide South Australia demanding 30 kph limit in the city.