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The first pic is a swedish crew, Holm/Vidare(i think) in a 850cc. The rest is finnish cars, with Rauno Altonen in car no 20.

Smoke, do you know who drove the other cars on these brilliant pic´s ?

1071dk wrote:The first pic is a swedish crew, Holm/Vidare(i think) in a 850cc. The rest is finnish cars, with Rauno Altonen in car no 20.

Smoke, do you know who drove the other cars on these brilliant pic´s ?

I thought the first pic (car 27) was geoff Mabbs, i have a rally report, he was invited to do the event by Rauno shortly after their adventures on the 62 Monte.

SMOKE GREY wrote: I thought the first pic (car 27) was geoff Mabbs .

Definately Mabbs in the Dunlop overalls, who's the big fella next to him ?

Great photos Steve, where did you find them ?

Surf 1275 wrote:
Definately Mabbs in the Dunlop overalls, who's the big fella next to him ?

My guess (dont have a picture this old) is that it could be Jan Ódor ?
this is only a guess, as I dont have a picture that old, of mr Ódor, and I cant find any info, on which date Geoff Mabbs started driving for JanSpeed ?

JC T ONE wrote:

Surf 1275 wrote:
Definately Mabbs in the Dunlop overalls, who's the big fella next to him ?

My guess (dont have a picture this old) is that it could be Jan Ódor ?
this is only a guess, as I dont have a picture that old, of mr Ódor, and I cant find any info, on which date Geoff Mabbs started driving for JanSpeed ?

It's not Jan , i'll dig out the report that mabbs wrote and check the details, might take a couple of days

SMOKE GREY wrote:
It's not Jan , i'll dig out the report that mabbs wrote and check the details, might take a couple of days

Thanks, I could not get it to fit, regarding year - time, as Jan would be a young man in the early 60ies.

Hosted for 1071DK (Peter)

Here is BA 2102 in action, taken at the 1000 lakes rally 18-20 August 1961.

Rauno Aaltonen won in Mercedes 220 SE.

JC T ONE wrote:

SMOKE GREY wrote:
It's not Jan , i'll dig out the report that mabbs wrote and check the details, might take a couple of days

Thanks, I could not get it to fit, regarding year - time, as Jan would be a young man in the early 60ies.

The pictures are from a finnish site Hankiralli-50v. I think the gentleman is Fred Geitel (1918-1995) his finnish co-driver. Mr. Geitel was motoring journalist and founder of Hankiralli.

SMOKE GREY wrote:

Could this crew be J.Oksanen/P.Oksanen ?

Fin997, do you have the entry list ?

Car number 3 Seppo Ahonen
20 Aaltonen-Nurmimaa
33 Pylvänäinen - Vasama

Unfortunately I don´t have the entrylist. I have some SS results and final results.
1071dk: Do you know the reg.number of Cooper Hyrwall-Wallin drove in 1000 Lakes Rally 1965 ?

Jyväskylän Suurajot (1000 Lakes Rally) 17th-19th August 1962
1 Pauli Toivonen/Jaakko Kallio Citroën DS 19 1618.6 pts
2 39 Esko Keinänen/Rainer Eklund Skoda 1713.6
3 41 Erik Carlsson/Gunnar Häggbom Saab 96 1742.0 P90235
4 Simo Lampinen/Jyrki Ahava Saab 96 1876.8
5 38 Bertil Söderström/Rune Olsson Volkswagen 1890.3 U18262
6 34 Bengt Söderström/Bo Olsson Morris Cooper 2086.5
7 36 Rune Larsson/Börje Nilsson Volkswagen 2092.2
8 Nils-Olof Eklundh/Mauri Laakso Skoda 2194.8
9 John Unnerud/Einar Mortensen Citroën ID 19 2202.8
10 30 Harry Bengtsson/Rolf Dahlgren Porsche 2210.3 B86666
17 77 Curt Johansson/Gunnar Wiman Volkswagen 1200
20 28 Ewy Rosqvist/Ursula Wirth Mercedes-Benz 220 SE S-JX 74
21 71 Sylvia Österberg/Ingalill Edenring Volvo 122
26 90 Börje Sweden/Lennart Asplund Volvo
49 18 Yngve Ward/Bengt Persson Volkswagen 1500
R 26 Tom Trana/Mario Pavoni Morris Cooper SS6 BA14851
R Timo Mäkinen/Kauko Ruutsalo Morris Cooper SS16
R Eino Kalpala/Klaus Louhivuori Morris Cooper SS8
R Rauno Aaltonen/Väinö Nurmimaa Morris Cooper SS2 407 ARX
R 32 Carl-Magnus Skogh/Fergus Sager Saab 96 P49106
R 33 Olle Bromark/Kjell Lyxell Saab 96
R 45 Sune Sweden/Alf Appelqvist Volvo 544 B49975
R 58 Åke Andersson/Ebbe Hansson Saab 96 SS23 C39047
R 69 Roger Calmby/Johan Eriksson Volkswagen 1500
R 75 Olle Dahl/Folke Andreasson Volvo 544
R 80 Leif Nilsson/Gunnar Blomqvist Volkswagen 1200
R 95 Johan Skarne/Per-Eric Fylking Volvo 544

Notes: 102 starters, 70 finishers.

Information can be found here: http://www.teamdan.com/archive/www2/mis ... iscra.html

The first pic is a swedish crew, Holm/Vidare(i think) in a 850cc. The rest is finnish cars, with Rauno Altonen in car no 20.

Smoke, do you know who drove the other cars on these brilliant pic´s ?

The above site has this info for 1961 (regarding BA 2102):

Jyväskylän Suurajot (1000 Lakes Rally) 18th-20th August 1961
1 61 Rauno Aaltonen/Väinö Nurminaa Mercedes-Benz 220 1624.1 pts
2 Pauli Toivonen/Jaakko Kallio Citroën DS 19 1951.1
3 57 Esko Keinanaen/Rainer Eklund Skoda Octavia 1983.6
4 25 Carl-Magnus Skogh/Fergus Sager Saab 96 1984.7 P49307
5 75 Gunnar Andersson/Bo Hellberg Volvo 544 2030.7 OA23587
6 Carl-Otto Bremer/Juhani Lampi Saab 96 2041.4
7 36 Bengt Söderström/Bo Olsson Saab 96 2062.2
8 55 Harry Bengtsson/Hans Walter Volkswagen 1200 2075.9 BA859
9 61 Alrik Stenström/Borje Nilsson Volkswagen 2173.6 U9502
10 4 Sven-Erik Holm/"Ingen Vidare" Austin 850 2221.8 BA2102
12 76 Olle Dahl/Folke Andreasson Volvo 544 R54029
17 80 David Bärgman/Rune Stoltz Volvo 544 AC31057
19 81 Ewy Rosqvist/Moni Wallraf Volvo 544 OA23591
20 33 Bo Karlsson/Ulf Österman Saab 96 T59100
24 Timo Mäkinen Mini-Minor
25 70 Jan-Erik Virgin/Curt Bjurström Volvo 544 BA5664
44 Simo Lampinen Jaguar 3.4
R 64 Erik Carlsson/Mario Pavoni Saab 96 SS21 P9315
R 26 Börje Ålhed/Uno Gårdebäck Saab 96
R 29 Gosta Idh/Lennart Berggren Saab 96
R 37 Arne Wernersson/Anita Rosqvist Saab 96
R 38 Roland Carlsson/Åke Jakobsson Saab 96 AC22299
R 43 Åke Thambert/Ragnar Ekelund Ford Anglia 1000 AA68100
R 48 Bertil Söderström/Bengt Holmberg Volkswagen B89324
R 56 Rune Larsson/Bror Hultgren Volkswagen 1200
R 71 Sune Sweden/Anders Berg Volvo

Lots of other nice information on the site : http://www.teamdan.com/archive/www2/mis ... scral.html

/Kenneth

And here is lists of -62 and -63 Hankirally.

HANKIRALLI 9-11.2.1962
Lk Yk L
1.S Rosell (S) H-Å Gustafsson Ford Anglia 1000 4 RI6024
2.Harry Källström (S) G Larsson VW 5 BA7435
3.Seppo Ahonen Heikki Pesonen Austin Cooper 4 K-2757
4.Harry Sköld (S) K Johansson Volvo 544 7
5.Esko Keinänen Esko Väinölä Skoda TS 5 AU-209
6.Olli Lyytikäinen Mikko Raunio BMW 700 2 AR-93
7.Åke Andersson (S) R Åndsten Saab 96 3 C39047
8.Aatos Wassman Anssi Järvi Skoda TS 5
9.Jorma Heino Viljo Salmelainen Simca Elysee 5 HD-846
10.Kari Sohlberg Ove Grune Volvo 544 6 AÖ-368
11.Carl-Magnus Skogh (S) Rolf Skogh Saab 96 3 1 1 P90236
12.Tapio Heino Jaakko Huhta Skoda TS 5 AU-269
13.Tom Trana (S) Gunnar Palm Morris Cooper 4 2 1 BA14850
14.Bengt Söderström (S) Bo Ohlsson Morris Cooper 9 5 1 BA14851
15.Rune Larsson (S) Börje Nilsson VW 1500 S 6 6 1 U8924
16.Kurt Österlund (S) F Jönsson BMW 700 2 B16556
17.Nils-Olof Eklundh Rainer Eklund Skoda TS 3 4 2 AU-282
18.Jarkko Frisk Kalevi Leivo Saab 96 5 9 1 IM-500
19.Erik Carlsson (S) x Saab 96 3 P90235
20.Rauno Aaltonen Väinö Nurmimaa Morris Cooper 4 T-2847
21.Simo Jokela Mikko Nurminen Volvo 544 7 IY-32
22.Kari Wallinheimo Matti Hinkkanen Citroen 7 XS-251
23.Niilo Pakarinen Rolf Hasselblatt Lloyd 4 XS-183
24.Veijo Pääkkönen Karl-Erik Bucht Ford Anglia 1000 4 OH-21
25.Simo Westerback Aimo Wirtanen Peugeot 203 5 BY-323
26.Matti Tuomi Keijo Louna Saab 96 3 TA-957
27.Tony Mabbs (GB) Fred Geitel Austin Mini 3 BA2102
28.Olle Helander Jan-Ulf Ingman Volvo 444 6 BL-19
29.Esko Nuuttila Eero Nuuttila Vauxhall Victor 6 GA-750
30.Oskar Matti (S) R Persen Citroen ID 19 7 12 2 BD13647
31.Pentti Kaipainen Väinö Vartiainen Peugeot 403 Break 6 20 3 ZN-330
32.Helge Ring Mauri Laakso Skoda TS 5 15 2
33.Jorma Pylvänäinen J Vasama Austin Cooper 4 13 4 MX-850
34.Heikki Hirvonen Matti Lumme Goggomobil 2 BÄ-922
35.Martti Kolari Veikko Korhonen VW 1200 5
36.Ilpo Airila Manne Westerback Borgward Isabella 6 AD-800
37.Toivo Niskanen Seppo Helenius Citroen DS 19 7 AP-300
38.Jukka Pajari Olli Noramaa Peugeot 203 5 AD-24
39.Jens Rudbäck Jan-Olof Nystedt DKW Donau 4
40.
41.Jouko Valli Aulis Paarala Ford Anglia 1000 4 16 5
42.Pentti Soidensuo Erkki Juvonen Citroen ID 19 7 17 3 BI-259
43.Kim Snellman Henrik Wohlström Steyr-Puch 1 x 1 BR-62
44.Harry Tuomi Harry Siren Saab 3
45.
46.Simo Lampinen Jyrki Ahava Saab 96 3 10 3 ZO-357
47.Timo Mäkinen x Morris Cooper 4
48.Kalevi Sylander Ralf Liljeström Trabant 1 19 1 AB-268
49.Jorma Oksanen Pentti Suhonen Morris Cooper 4 8 2 HAD-20
50.Nils Mattsson Kauko Ruutsalo Dodge Lancer 8 14 2 OK-432
51.Onni Vilkas Jorma Pulkkinen MB 220 SE 8 7 1 RÄ-701
52.Jukka Asukas Björn Weckman Saab 96 3 11 3 OO-371
53.Pauli Toivonen Jaakko Kallio Citroen DS 19 7 3 1 A-1375
54.Wolfgang Knorn x Trabant 1 BR-692
55.P Laine Matti Karppinen Austin Cooper 4
56.Raimo Lukander Lassi Jansson Trabant 1 AT-973
57.Viljo Yliherne Erik Puranen Peugeot 403 6 18 2 AV-11
58.Klaus Knorn Matti Vartiainen Trabant 1
59.Veikko Aalto Jukka Andersson Citroen ID 19 7
60.Lea Weckman Marita Kohtamäki Saab 3 ON-298

61.Seija Keinänen Tuulikki Bärlund Skoda TS 11
62.Matti Heusala L Salminen Volvo 544 11 3 1
63.Ilkka Metsänoja Jaakko Ahonen DKW 10 6 4
64.Olavi Kuikka Pertti Rantalainen Skoda TS 11 8 4
65.Pertti Vesanen Veikko Valtonen Ford Anglia van 10 1 1
66.Heikki Seuri J Aaltonen Renault Dauphine 10
67.Antero Seppänen P Kauppinen Volvo 544 11
68.Göran Weckström S Jansson Commer Cob 11
69.Henry Sandell Eero Ljungberg Skoda Octavia 11
70.Pauli Olin T Haarala Peugeot 11 9 5
71.W Mirovirta Erkki Niukkanen Skoda 11
72.Harry Malmström L Malmström Peugeot 403 11
73.Kari Estola Jommi Salomaa Austin Cooper 10 5 3
74.Heikki Vanhakartano S Niinisaari Saab 96 10
75.Jouko Nordell Väinö Saario VW 1200 11 7 3
76.Gunnar Granroth Bo Thilman Peugeot 403 11 10 6
77.Heimo Mäkinen Kari Lehtinen MB 220 S 11 4 2
78.Reijo Merisalmi Matti Nyberg Ford Custom 12
79.Pekka Mattila Heikki Vapaa Skoda TS 11
80.Riitta Grön Harry Grön Saab 95 10
81.Liisa Lammin-Koskinen Anneli Lindqvist Saab 96 10 2 2

HANKIRALLI 15-17.2.1963
MARLBORO Lk Yk L
1.Nils Mattsson Olavi Karppinen Dodge Lancer 8 20 2 OK-432
2.Carl-Magnus Skogh (S) Lennart Berggren Volvo 122 7 10 3 O80322
3.Kari Sohlberg Klaus Sohlberg Volvo 544 7 ABH-6
4.Onni Vilkas Jorma Pulkkinen MB 220 SE 8 24 3 RZ-213
5.Berndt Jansson (S) Eric Pettersson VW 1500 S 6 11 3 B30990
6.Simo Lampinen Jyrki Ahava Saab 96 3 4 2 AEM-96
7.Åke Andersson (S) x Saab 96 3 P95120
8.Rune Larsson (S) Börje Nilsson VW 1500 S 6 3 1 U60688
9.John Unnerud (N) I Autio Citroen DS 19 7 9 2 7231NC75
10.Timo Mäkinen Cristable Carlisle Morris Cooper 4 6 2 477BBL
11.Erik Carlsson (S) Gunnar Palm Saab 96 3 P91990
12.Olle Dahl (S) x Volvo 122 7 O80317
13.Kim Snellman Henrik Wohlström Steyr-Puch 1 33 1 BR-62
14.Olle Bromark (S) Kjell Lyxell Saab 96 3 2 1 C41114
15.Pauli Toivonen Anssi Järvi Citroen DS 19 7 1 1 A-1596
16.Bertil Söderström (S) Rune Ohlsson VW 1500 S 6 7 2 B21294
17.Rauno Aaltonen Väinö Nurmimaa Saab 96 3 P70677
18.Olle Helander Jan-Ulf Ingman Volvo 544 7 18 5 ABL-88
19.Tom Trana (S) Mario Pavoni Morris Cooper 4 5 1 BA22627
20.Bengt Söderström (S) Bo Ohlsson Morris Cooper 4 BA14851
21.Esko Keinänen Rainer Eklund Skoda TS 5 8 1 AEN-1
22.Lauri Miettinen Jorma Heino Morris Cooper 4 13 3 ADN-9
23.Albert Norrgård Einar Norrgård Volvo 544 7 19 6 ZO-870
24.Jouko Valli Aulis Paarala Ford Anglia 1200 5 17 3 TEB-77
25.Viljo Yliherne Erik Puranen Fiat 1500 6 34 6 AAX-37
26.Pentti Soidensuo Erkki Juvonen Citroen ID 19 7 BI-259
27.Ilpo Airila Pentti Kaipainen BMW 700 2 26 1 UAA-1
28.Harry Tuomi Harry Siren Morris Cooper 4 TEB-1
29.Kurt Österlund (S) Pentti Loivaranta BMW 700 2 30 2 B16556
30.Henrik Nordström Kalevi Leivo Morris Cooper 4 ZX-146
31.Klaus Knorn Lassi Jansson Trabant 1 BG-97
32.Erkki Pääkkönen Martti Kolari VW 1200 5 28 4 XP-980
33.Ilkka Metsänoja Kalevi Luona NSU Prinz 2 35 3 TGI-55
34.
35.S Rosell (S) H-Å Gustafsson Ford Cortina 5 R31181
36.Bo Johansson (S) Gustaf Schröderheim Saab 3 12 3 A68750
37.Jukka Andersson Seppo Kivinen Citroen ID 19 7 14 4 HFC-88
38.Matti Kolehmainen Erkki Kujala Volga M21 8 16 1 BT-280
39.Wolfgang Knorn Juhani Miettinen Trabant 1 AAH-3
40.Esko Nuuttila Lauri Piipponen Opel Kadett 1000 4 32 7 GD-770
41.Helge Ring Seppo Töyräs Skoda TS 5 15 2 ADC-22
42.Kaj Alen Raimo Selin Saab 96 3 ZZ-272
43.Heikki Seuri A Roimola Skoda Felicia 9 KÄ-58
44.Eino Lehtonen Lauri Salo Wartburg 1000 4 HCT-89
45.Matti Hietanen Vilho Hietanen Austin Cooper 4 27 5 BC-533
46.Liisa Lammin-Koskinen Mirja Särkilahti Saab 96 3 38 6 GD-330
47.Jukka Helevuo Pauli Ahvonen Saab 96 3 GD-381
48.Matti Järvinen Raimo Lehtonen Alfa Giulietta 5 36 5 ADV-49
49.Kauko Mäkelä Arto Salminen Peugeot 403 6 23 5 AF-411
50.Raimo Virtanen Oiva Tuovinen Simca 1000 4 25 4 ACG-85
51.
52.Riitta Grön Anja Ahlström Saab 95 3 37 5 HR-129
53.Dick Adams Kalevi Jokirinne Morris Mini 3 BÖ-841
54.Olavi Ristola Helge Rehumäki Citroen DS 19 7 21 7 BY-307
55.Gunnar Granroth Bo Thilman Saab 96 3 31 4 AEH-96
56.Eino Riiali Veikko Inkiläinen MB 220 SE 8 RG-435
57.Fredrik Wärnhjelm B-E Niemimäki Fiat 1500 6 22 4 ZU-654
58.Pekka Virtanen Antti Aro Morris Cooper 4 HDT-71
59.Heimo Mäkinen Erkki Eskelinen Volvo 544 6 AJ-70
60.Lasse Jaakontalo Keijo Louna Austin Cooper 4 29 6 TEA-79

61.Richard Ahlqvist Ralf Pousar Volvo 544 11 11 7 AY-546
62.Rauno Virtanen Matti Haristo Morris Cooper 10 7 4 HBB-95
63.Matti Heinonen Heikki Mäki Wartburg 10 EÖ-894
64.Kalle Broström x Volvo 444 11 10 6 BV-180
65.Asko Nenonen Veikko Koskinen Hillman Minx 11 8 4 BN-841
66.Lasse Mukula Tauno Lakka Skoda TS 10 1 1 MB-931
67.Raimo Pulliainen Veikko Korhonen Opel Rekord 11 9 5 RÄ-344
68.Matti Heusala L Salminen Volvo 544 11 2 1 CB-519
69.Risto Taavettila Jorma Kangas Volvo 544 11 4 2 XX-144
70.Georg Bäckman Harry Brander Volvo 444 11 ADX-46
71.
72.Matti Soivio Hannu Mikkola Skoda TS 10 AU-269
73.Olli Niinivaara Raimo Hartto Austin Mini 10 AY-986
74.Seppo Veijalainen Lauri Hallikas DKW Donau 10 3 2 RG-203
75.Ossi Huhtala Olli Kuusisto Austin Cooper 10 5 3 BL-944
76.Kalevi Martikainen M Markio Morris Mini 10 12 5 HGP-14
77.Fredrik Girs Heikki Seppälä Skoda TS 10 ACH-1
78.J Virta K Wall Peugeot 403 11 AU-16
79.Kaj Forsman Juhani Toivonen Austin Mini 10 6 3 AES-92
80.J-O Spåra x Ford Taunus 11 VY-387

Fin997

I have not been able to find the reg. number of the Eric Hyrwall/Sven-Olof Wallin car.
They were members of Borås Motor Club, so maybe the reg. number starts with O(Gothenburg).

Eric Hyrwall was also known as a boatracer.

1071dk wrote:Fin997

I have not been able to find the reg. number of the Eric Hyrwall/Sven-Olof Wallin car.
They were members of Borås Motor Club, so maybe the reg. number starts with O(Gothenburg).

Eric Hyrwall was also known as a boatracer.

Thanks 1071dk for your reply. That reg. number is the only swedish Cooper entry in 60`s 1000 Lakes I don´t have. I will keep on searching.

KennethDK wrote:Some more pictures found on the net - in search of my own car. (Still looking for any information on my Austin Mini Cooper swedish reg.no. H28729 and later GHB079. The car was bought in 1962 by a man in Kalmar - Sweden).

More pictures - click on URL below


https://picasaweb.google.com/CooperRaci ... skeMiniEr#

/Kenneth

Hi KennethDK

I would like to know when and where was this photo?

Thank you in advance for your help.

You may be interested in this topic:

http://www.forum-auto.com/sport-auto/hi ... 378712.htm

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miniforever