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Pattern subframes are pretty much always OK. Personally I find them better than the Heritage ones.

The only genuine one I have ever fitted is the one I’m going to fit into HOY, bought from Spain. Having sold a few of them, the prices have increased so they are no longer cheaper than Heritage, but at least are the real deal, not ‘repro’ originals if you get my meaning.

We have fitted dozens of pattern rear frames over the years with no real issues.

Do you have a link to the Spanish ebay seller, i tried to find him before with no luck, thanks

harrymini wrote: ↑Tue May 26, 2020 11:47 am Do you have a link to the Spanish ebay seller, i tried to find him before with no luck, thanks

Here you are Harry - he has some fantastic stuff and I think more that isn't listed (certainly when buying for HOY he located parts for me that were not listed. Not all prices are realistic though and some are quite bizarre

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/21A1588-21A2 ... SwKOZcP2KW

The subframe on the left is the actual one I bought that had MOWOG pressed into it. I don't think they all have that but are, as far as I'm aware, all genuine NOS.

I found out (the hard way) that on the non-gen rear subframes the outer bracket that holds the radius arm in you couldnt put the two bolts past the radius arm. In the end I took the subframe off and replaced it with a genuine one. Problem solved.

If the price is too good to be true , it isnt.

Cheers for the last pointers,

I have picked up a non-heritage one today, will test for on the original floor and report back, before I cut the whole load floor out .

Perhaps worth looking ar David Vizard doesn't he do a peice on strengthen rear subframe???