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Good to hear its still looking good , by the looks of it only the HT leads , replacement oil filler cap and a driver mirror have been added since 2012

An important car to sit alongside your tuned Mini…
https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/ ... car-n7yWp8

bryan wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:48 pm Non of the Cooper S’s sold at todays Historics auction.
Huge number of unsold lots in general, as there were at H&H’s Duxford sale last week.
I don’t thing sellers (and auction houses) have clocked what classic cars will actually realise just now. Interest rates finally catching up with asset values I guess amongst a lot of other factors.

Just had a quick look at that online. The unsold white Mk2 S was bid quite fairly when you include the commission £26K (plus 10% plus vat) makes it nearly £30k which is a good price now for a Mk2 S, the similar unsold Almond Green car with the wheel arches on hit £30k plus commission = £33,600 which I think is pretty good! The dark green Mk2S rally car did about £19k inc commission which was a pretty fair price for a car made from parts with no factory chassis number and the OEW Mk1 S from JD hit high 30s which they must be disappointed with but that’s the market now. If id have been any of the Mk2 owners I’d have taken those bids! Of course the commission kills the deal for the seller but weirdly buyers prefer to pay more at an auction than they’d pay at private sale, all private sellers seem to get are low ball offers and messed about. It’s just one of the odd things about selling a car!

All good observations Pete.
I completely agree the cars were fairly bid up to todays lower market values, but the sellers are not accepting where the markets at with Cooper S’s (and many other 60’s and 70’s classics).
I guess the auctioneers want their business and don’t want to “disabuse” the sellers of their market value perceptions of their pride and joy.
I fully agree too that auction houses don’t add much value.
As a buyer, you can’t road test the car or even more important, have the chance to talk to the seller about the car.
Private sales should be better for all, but I guess sellers just don’t want to be arsed with Joe Public and risk being messed about.

When looking at auctioning an old car I was confidently told it would make £35k plus by three auctioneers. They each also said I should have no reserve to encourage bids.
If I had listened to them I would had to give the car away for £20k without a leg to stand on.


Ps except Matthewsons, they were totally upfront and bang on the money.

Buying a car observations, I would rather buy private as you start high and go lower, but at auction , start low and end up high then kicked in the balls with commission + VAT. If selling at action to get a good price and Ring the Bell you only need two strong buyers or one and a good auctioneer to take it up. It’s all on the day but markets do peaks and troughs.

1959 Austin Mini Se7en Deluxe Saloon
Sold for £8,625 inc. premium:-
https://cars.bonhams.com/auction/28307/ ... -see-text/

Seems to be a good price for the buyer and now on its way to Northern Ireland.

Nee Naw Nee Naw Nee Naw Nee Naw…….and so on….. https://www.classiccarauctions.co.uk/19 ... 989&pp=100

Never seen one of these before, guide is a bit optimistic, but a nice thing, like driving round in a drinks cabinet https://www.classiccarauctions.co.uk/19 ... 904&pp=100

https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/ ... ord-41q974

Thoughts? Or did I just miss a previous discussion?

Bitsilly wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 3:36 pm https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/ ... ord-41q974

Thoughts? Or did I just miss a previous discussion?

If I’m reading it right it managed to leave Longbridge, get converted by Radford and onto a boat to the States in 2 weeks.

Recently seen in the Bonhams Goodwood Revival sale, guess it didn't sell, does look nice, personally I think if a car is 'coach built' it should not be a factory standard colour, though some of the factory greys do look nice.

https://cars.bonhams.com/auction/27998/ ... sa-y40375/

Why isn't there a single picture of the interior?

I remember it being brown…. Which didn’t really work!

You would've thought they would at least make it road legal and fit a front number plate and rear numberplate lamp!

That’s a genuine Radford S and yes ‘restored’ back to factory colours over in the U.S. That’s just one of a several Radford Ss I’ve seen restored in standard factory colours in recent years, bloody sacrilege (sorry Murph ) . Originally light metallic blue.

Yeah there was the odd one in standard colours but it’s a craze I noticed with Minisprints aswell in recent times being painted factory colours, rip up your heritage certificates and paint them a proper colour I say!

I’ve seen the interior of that one and it’s all been redone in brown leather as I remember.

Everything about that car & ad, just make it look a bit tawdry & unloved.

Not the sort of vibe you really want to send out when selling a Radford.

Personally, I find it hard to reconcile the build date & export date, seems all a bit quick to me.

M

First original Mk1 Radford I've seen with a rod-change gearbox...
...must have been a prototype.

Yes it’s changed a little since 1966, understandably. Ruined some might say but I can’t see any deception going on here, just a very unsympathetically restored car which we’ve all seen a million times before to be fair. My use of the word ‘original’ refers to it being a car with continuous history not in its ‘original’ spec. Plenty of those about, often built from an 850 and an S logbook.

More on it here …

https://youtu.be/fNJjyFALg-I?si=t973Kn8HpMiFm5UA

It’s on car and classic auction, lots of pictures..
D
Edit. Sorry I see this link has already been posted

https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/ ... ord-41q974