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Re: 1275 GT thread
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:21 pm
by 360gts
rolesyboy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:35 pm
Is there a list of body and mechanical changes for the early GT? They were hydro then dry then 12 inch wheel then single bolt subframe etc etc
I’ve never seen any good articles on this other than Coopers
Cheers
Great idea.
Maybe we start with a list of what we know regarding changes.....then, some members may be able to fill in the approx. change date/s
Let me kick if off with a few of the changes that I know of....have no idea of the change dates.....sure there are many others.
Please add other changes to the list.
1.hydro to dry.
2. remote gearbox to rod
3. metal air box to plastic.
4. 6000 rev counter to 6500 (Coincident with the FD ratio change)
5. large holes in the inner wings.
7. bonnet prop from left to right
8. small air vent knobs
9. grille and GT badge.
10. 10" wheels to 12"
Re: 1275 GT thread
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:58 pm
by 66Traveller
360gts wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:21 pm
rolesyboy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:35 pm
Is there a list of body and mechanical changes for the early GT? They were hydro then dry then 12 inch wheel then single bolt subframe etc etc
I’ve never seen any good articles on this other than Coopers
Cheers
Great idea.
Maybe we start with a list of what we know regarding changes.....then, some members may be able to fill in the approx. change date/s
Let me kick if off with a few of the changes that I know of....have no idea of the change dates.....sure there are many others.
Please add other changes to the list.
1.hydro to dry.
2. remote gearbox to rod (with change to the floorpan)
3. metal air box to plastic.
4. 6000 rev counter to 6500 (Coincident with the FD ratio change)
5. large holes in the inner wings.
7. bonnet prop from left to right
8. small air vent knobs
9. grille and GT badge.
10. 10" wheels to 12"
A few more off the top of my head...
11. Deletion of drip rails from the bodyshell
12. Plastic cased heater to metal cased
13. Bright heater control surround to plain black
14. Early stitched deeply pocketed basket weave vinyl to electrically welded flatter perforated vinyl
15. Perforated vinyl to stripey deck chair fabric
16. Leather bound three spoke wheel to two spoke wheel
17. Mk2 boot handle to Mk3 type
18. Plain glass to tinted glass
19. Mk2 interior light to Mk3
20. Servo to no servo
21. 4 flute sills to 6 flute
22. Ashtray panels in rear bins to no ashtray panels
23. Vinyl on screen pillars and rear bins to just paint
24. Early bonnet hinges to later type (ditto bonnet)
25. Early grille with black steel top to all aluminium
26. Kangol magnet seatbelts to Kangol static with double floor mounted buckle to Kangol inertia reels with buckles on stalks
27. Mk2 type Wingard interior mirror to later type
28. Mk2 round washer bottle to half circular type
29. Mk2 switch panel to Mk3 with toggle switches
30. Mk2 type ignition switch to column type
31. Mk2 type windscreen washer on small bracket to washer being mounted between the two rocker switches on the switch panel
33. Mk2/Mk3 rear lights without reversing lights to later Mk4 type
34. Chrome bumpers to black bumpers
Re: 1275 GT thread
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 7:18 pm
by nick@dunsdale
66Traveller wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:58 pm
360gts wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:21 pm
rolesyboy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:35 pm
Is there a list of body and mechanical changes for the early GT? They were hydro then dry then 12 inch wheel then single bolt subframe etc etc
I’ve never seen any good articles on this other than Coopers
Cheers
Great idea.
Maybe we start with a list of what we know regarding changes.....then, some members may be able to fill in the approx. change date/s
Let me kick if off with a few of the changes that I know of....have no idea of the change dates.....sure there are many others.
Please add other changes to the list.
1.hydro to dry.
2. remote gearbox to rod (with change to the floorpan)
3. metal air box to plastic.
4. 6000 rev counter to 6500 (Coincident with the FD ratio change)
5. large holes in the inner wings.
7. bonnet prop from left to right
8. small air vent knobs
9. grille and GT badge.
10. 10" wheels to 12"
A few more off the top of my head...
11. Deletion of drip rails from the bodyshell
12. Plastic cased heater to metal cased
13. Bright heater control surround to plain black
14. Early stitched deeply pocketed basket weave vinyl to electrically welded flatter perforated vinyl
15. Perforated vinyl to stripey deck chair fabric
16. Leather bound three spoke wheel to two spoke wheel
17. Mk2 boot handle to Mk3 type
18. Plain glass to tinted glass
19. Mk2 interior light to Mk3
20. Servo to no servo
21. 4 flute sills to 6 flute
22. Ashtray panels in rear bins to no ashtray panels
23. Vinyl on screen pillars and rear bins to just paint
24. Early bonnet hinges to later type (ditto bonnet)
25. Early grille with black steel top to all aluminium
26. Kangol magnet seatbelts to Kangol static with double floor mounted buckle to Kangol inertia reels with buckles on stalks
27. Mk2 type Wingard interior mirror to later type
28. Mk2 round washer bottle to half circular type
29. Mk2 switch panel to Mk3 with toggle switches
30. Mk2 type ignition switch to column type
31. Mk2 type windscreen washer on small bracket to washer being mounted between the two rocker switches on the switch panel
33. Mk2/Mk3 rear lights without reversing lights to later Mk4 type
34. Chrome bumpers to black bumpers
35. Boot board and brackets to no boot board or brackets
36 6.5 gallon tank to 7.5 gallon tank.
37. Roto dip hole to no roto dip hole
38. 7.5 discs to 8.4 discs
Chrome bumpers to black was that a thing ?
Re: 1275 GT thread
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 7:59 pm
by mab01uk
Re: 1275 GT thread
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:08 pm
by mab01uk
Some Clubman changes listed below were also on the 1275GT
Re: 1275 GT thread
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:45 pm
by GraemeC
360gts wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:21 pm
10. 10" wheels to 12"
10a. Rostyles to Denovos to standard 12” steels.
Re: 1275 GT thread
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:19 am
by winabbey
mab01uk wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:50 pm
...but the original Mini Cooper Register forum had a very detailed long running thread on the 1275GT changes over the years but sadly it was all lost when the forum crashed with no back up....unless someone knows different.
If you know the URL of that Forum you may be able to access archived versions via the WayBackMachine.
https://archive.org/web/
Re: 1275 GT thread
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:08 am
by mab01uk
winabbey wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:19 am
mab01uk wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:50 pm
...but the original Mini Cooper Register forum had a very detailed long running thread on the 1275GT changes over the years but sadly it was all lost when the forum crashed with no back up....unless someone knows different.
If you know the URL of that Forum you may be able to access archived versions via the WayBackMachine.
https://archive.org/web/
Thanks, it looks like something of the old MCR forum has been archived from 1999 onwards....
Re: 1275 GT thread
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:27 am
by Polarsilver
1275GT .JPG
Just to wind up all you lot who think standard has to be best or otherwise its crap.. my GT is probably 75% Not Standard and i dont care because its the most comfortable Mini i have & the most Fun to Drive irrespective .. so there.
I suspect most on here are of an age that can remember when any "OLD" Mini was modified in Period to suit what the owner could afford to modify or he could find in a scrap yard to "Improve" his Mini .. I suspect that "YOU" did just that so can we just remember our youth .. in those ancient days you did not need to worry what profit could be made on your old Mini .. there were much better things to do
Re: 1275 GT thread
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 11:33 am
by 66Traveller
Polarsilver wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:27 am
1275GT .JPGJust to wind up all you lot who think standard has to be best or otherwise its crap.. my GT is probably 75% Not Standard and i dont care because its the most comfortable Mini i have & the most Fun to Drive irrespective .. so there.
I suspect most on here are of an age that can remember when any "OLD" Mini was modified in Period to suit what the owner could afford to modify or he could find in a scrap yard to "Improve" his Mini .. I suspect that "YOU" did just that so can we just remember our youth .. in those ancient days you did not need to worry what profit could be made on your old Mini .. there were much better things to do
Personally I have absolutely
no problem with anybody modifying their car in any way they want. It is after all their car!
I think the issue is a different one - namely when a car is advertised (and priced) as being totally original or standard when clearly it is not - so, for example a 1970 car that has no 1970 parts on it at all - wrong shell, interior etc.
But in fact most of this thread is about the detail because it is what fascinates and obsesses many of us!
Re: 1275 GT thread
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:11 pm
by Colin a
This is my GT.
Re: 1275 GT thread
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:29 pm
by Costafortune
Is that a Swindon/Wilts plate?
It looks amazing.
Re: 1275 GT thread
Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:42 am
by Peter Laidler
NICE one Colin a, ...... a few more photos please.
Re: 1275 GT thread
Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:44 pm
by 111Robin
Anyone have any comments on this ?. It's local to me so is of interest possibly
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/403192737149 ... J#viTabs_0
Re: 1275 GT thread
Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:10 pm
by nick@dunsdale
Couple of comments on page 16 of this thread
Wrong front seat frames, newton covers on later seats, wrong grill, no covering on rear companion box's,
Wrong rev counter i think ?
I suppose you could look at it two ways, could be an orginal that lost some of it's bits over the years and someone has tried to put it back to original or could be a total fabrication, would hope for the former
Re: 1275 GT thread
Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:57 pm
by Colin a
Yes it is a Wiltshire registration, the car has never been out of Swindon, it was supplied by G and K Barnes of Dauntsey near Swindon, a few of you may remember Gordon Barnes, he used to race a Cooper s back in the sixties , the car has only been owned by a brother and sister , both in their eighties and then me for the last 31 years, I have always done any work on the car since the warrantee ran out, I bought the car off of the old man ran into a curb stone that some kids had put in the middle of the road when it was dark, it only cracked the gearbox casing and broke a lug off the remote, so of course it was written off by the insurance and he was given £700 for the car but was allowed to keep the car,there was no other damage, there was no catageries then so the v5 is not marked, just seemed a shame to let it go for scrap even back then, even though it was only worth a few pennies.
Re: 1275 GT thread
Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:40 pm
by Costafortune
nick@dunsdale wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:10 pm
Couple of comments on page 16 of this thread
Wrong front seat frames, newton covers on later seats, wrong grill, no covering on rear companion box's,
Wrong rev counter i think ?
I suppose you could look at it two ways, could be an orginal that lost some of it's bits over the years and someone has tried to put it back to original or could be a total fabrication, would hope for the former
Even if it was built from a V5 (I don't think it has) , so long is it's been well put together it's worth 15k or so.
Re: 1275 GT thread
Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:46 pm
by 66Traveller
Costafortune wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:40 pm
nick@dunsdale wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:10 pm
Couple of comments on page 16 of this thread
Wrong front seat frames, newton covers on later seats, wrong grill, no covering on rear companion box's,
Wrong rev counter i think ?
I suppose you could look at it two ways, could be an orginal that lost some of it's bits over the years and someone has tried to put it back to original or could be a total fabrication, would hope for the former
Even if it was built from a V5 (I don't think it has) , so long is it's been well put together it's worth 15k or so.
I think for that price you could detail it up and it would be a great car to own.
Re: 1275 GT thread
Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:52 pm
by 111Robin
Colin a wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:57 pm
Yes it is a Wiltshire registration, the car has never been out of Swindon, it was supplied by G and K Barnes of Dauntsey near Swindon, a few of you may remember Gordon Barnes, he used to race a Cooper s back in the sixties , the car has only been owned by a brother and sister , both in their eighties and then me for the last 31 years, I have always done any work on the car since the warrantee ran out, I bought the car off of the old man ran into a curb stone that some kids had put in the middle of the road when it was dark, it only cracked the gearbox casing and broke a lug off the remote, so of course it was written off by the insurance and he was given £700 for the car but was allowed to keep the car,there was no other damage, there was no catageries then so the v5 is not marked, just seemed a shame to let it go for scrap even back then, even though it was only worth a few pennies.
Great information Colin thanks. So is it located in Aberdeen as per the Ebay advert or is that an error ?.
Re: 1275 GT thread
Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:02 pm
by nick@dunsdale
Costafortune wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:40 pm
nick@dunsdale wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:10 pm
Couple of comments on page 16 of this thread
Wrong front seat frames, newton covers on later seats, wrong grill, no covering on rear companion box's,
Wrong rev counter i think ?
I suppose you could look at it two ways, could be an orginal that lost some of it's bits over the years and someone has tried to put it back to original or could be a total fabrication, would hope for the former
Even if it was built from a V5 (I don't think it has) , so long is it's been well put together it's worth 15k or so.
Absolutley and it's a great colour as well
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