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Re: At The Auctions

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 2:57 pm
by johnv
been re-built to look like a Mk3 Mini Cooper S.
they haven't even put the right badge on it

Re: At The Auctions

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:53 pm
by Old English White
Or the right ANYTHING! :( Not even painted it a Mk3 colour inside OR out :cry:

Re: At The Auctions

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:36 pm
by 66Traveller
surfblue63 wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:57 pm At Anglia this weekend, along with the blue MK2 I mentioned earlier, is a Mk2 S in need of a full restoration. Possibly a Liverpool Police car. Estimate seams low until you factor in the cost of restoration.

https://angliacarauctions.co.uk/classic ... per-s-mkii


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Is it me or do the number plates and chassis plate look suspiciously new compared to the 'patina' of the rest of the car?

Re: At The Auctions

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:16 pm
by steve1071
66Traveller wrote: Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:36 pm
surfblue63 wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:57 pm At Anglia this weekend, along with the blue MK2 I mentioned earlier, is a Mk2 S in need of a full restoration. Possibly a Liverpool Police car. Estimate seams low until you factor in the cost of restoration.

https://angliacarauctions.co.uk/classic ... per-s-mkii


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Is it me or do the number plates and chassis plate look suspiciously new compared to the 'patina' of the rest of the car?
and the boot board brackets…..

Re: At The Auctions

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:30 pm
by 66Traveller
Ahh yes - well spotted! Etch primed!

Re: At The Auctions

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:34 pm
by Andrew1967
Regulator and fuse box in correct positions though.

Dash vinyl looks original too.

Maybe had rear end damage and brackets replaced … boot fit is awful ?!

Re: At The Auctions

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:38 am
by Exminiman
Andrew1967 wrote: Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:34 pm Regulator and fuse box in correct positions though.

Dash vinyl looks original too.

Maybe had rear end damage and brackets replaced … boot fit is awful ?!
Agree, think there is a quite a bit to point to being original basic car.

If it was an ex Police car would it have any tel tale holes for lights and radio etc….this is Peters territory

EDIT manufactured 69 registered 82, does that mean anything ? When they were released from service were they re-registered or was it written off and re-registered ?

Re: At The Auctions

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:42 am
by 66Traveller
I would have thought there would be (filled) holes in the roof and a zip in the headlining of an original Liverpool Police car (that was certainly the case for the Manchester ones my father drove in the late 1960s). They weren't re-registered or repainted at the end of their period of service - just had the Police equipment removed and were sold off (often for other models e.g. Capris with a vinyl roof added to cover up the filled in holes in the roof). There seems to be no evidence of this car having been Police White at any point - doors and boot lid are Maroon B on the inside suggesting a 998cc Super Deluxe?

The white paint on the roof is on top of the red rather than underneath it. The right hand tank also looks suspiciously freshly powder coated.

Re: At The Auctions

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:34 am
by Cole Liggett

Re: At The Auctions

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:18 am
by Exminiman
Cole Liggett wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:34 am https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1965- ... c-racecar/

Interesting one on BaT.
According to the blub, built by Osbourne Automotive of this parish..?

Re: At The Auctions

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:17 am
by nick@dunsdale
Andrew1967 wrote: Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:34 pm Regulator and fuse box in correct positions though.

Dash vinyl looks original too.

Maybe had rear end damage and brackets replaced … boot fit is awful ?!
Its obviously had wings and front panel at some point maybe before it got really tatty
as you mention prob rear end damage as the bootlid looks the same colour as the front wings
with similar patina

Re: At The Auctions

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:31 am
by 66Traveller
And the replacement right hand tank? It does look like a SDL shell

Re: At The Auctions

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:01 pm
by GraemeC
Exminiman wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:18 am
Cole Liggett wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:34 am https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1965- ... c-racecar/

Interesting one on BaT.
According to the blub, built by Osbourne Automotive of this parish..?
Originally, yes - from when it was a 'proper' competing, successful rally car. Shame its now a tarted up shadow of its former self.
I'm sure Oz will add more detail

Re: At The Auctions

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 1:53 pm
by woodypup59
Mathewsons have this delightful '62 pickup for auction tomorrow.

https://www.mathewsons.co.uk/product/19 ... perwork-o/

Tempted as I am its looks too rough even for me.

Its bound to go for silly money.

Apparently most cars there are sold to dealers from the South.

Re: At The Auctions

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:48 pm
by surfblue63
How many cars has that been built from?

Watching the latest series of Bangers and Cash it appears that Mathewsons put on high reserves (could be the sellers asking), to see where the cars are bid to, and then negotiate a sale after the auction. Clever business model for them.

Re: At The Auctions

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:16 pm
by mk1
When I sold my Jag through Matthewson's I put it on at NO RESERVE & it went WAY HIGHER than I ever expected it too.

Re: At The Auctions

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:30 pm
by Polarsilver
Surf , i can agree with your thoughts they will take the Highest Bid & that is the start of negotiations with their Seller irrespective of the Reserve not met .. before this policy a car unsold was rolled over to their next auction ..whatever that MGC seemed to be a good buy .. also to note that a Fuel Ration Book is a selling point with that Pickup .. :roll:

Re: At The Auctions

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:09 pm
by 66Traveller
surfblue63 wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:48 pm How many cars has that been built from?
My thoughts exactly it really is a bitza - Mk2 heater, Morris Mk1 speedo, SDL binnacle, Mk3 seats, MK1 850 door cards.... Also of course the wrong tailgate for a 62 (it should be flat) and the wrong front panel (should be full skirt)

Re: At The Auctions

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:21 pm
by Old English White
I don't even think those are Mk3 Mini seats. Mk3 ADO16 I reckon. And ADO16 bumper on the back too isn't it.
I wouldn't want that at any price ;)

Re: At The Auctions

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:39 pm
by Andrew1967
At the right price I'd buy it, but in any auction would make far more than I'd pay.