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If you've just eaten, don't look at this...........

https://www.mathewsons.co.uk/product/19 ... -are-made/
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surfblue63 wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:27 pm
Pete wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:33 pm Strange one…

https://youtu.be/r63ZBQm7GoU

Quoted chassis number is A-A2S7-9*****A. So I guess it's not what it is.

https://www.mathewsons.co.uk/product/19 ... australia/#
Lower case S on bonnet, looks like a Radford colour scheme with waist trim! and I think the tread on the tyres suggest 12" wheels. 1st registered 2017?
Oh dear. Caveat Emptor!
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mk1coopers wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:21 am
Old English White wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:25 am It certainly isn't a 1967 car of either UK OR Australian origin. It's a few years earlier than that. A real bitza isn't it!
Another car that someone could potentially pay to much for from the description then, seen it so many time when people turn up at shows saying they have X / Y or Z car when it's not and they are none the wiser until something gets said (just in the course of normal conversation) about it not being what they think it is.
Mathewson’s do have abit of a habit of passing the buck with their “make your own mind up” mantra. They’re making a good cut off buyer and seller, you’d think they’d at least go to the trouble of confirming chassis numbers matched their descriptions?
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hanlminiman wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:43 pm
surfblue63 wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:27 pm
Pete wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:33 pm Strange one…

https://youtu.be/r63ZBQm7GoU

Quoted chassis number is A-A2S7-9*****A. So I guess it's not what it is.

https://www.mathewsons.co.uk/product/19 ... australia/#
Lower case S on bonnet, looks like a Radford colour scheme with waist trim! and I think the tread on the tyres suggest 12" wheels. 1st registered 2017?
Oh dear. Caveat Emptor!
Frankly, the boot badges aren't much better positioned are they :|
And I rather agree with Pete about the buck passing.
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Pete wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:51 pm
mk1coopers wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:21 am
Old English White wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:25 am It certainly isn't a 1967 car of either UK OR Australian origin. It's a few years earlier than that. A real bitza isn't it!
Another car that someone could potentially pay to much for from the description then, seen it so many time when people turn up at shows saying they have X / Y or Z car when it's not and they are none the wiser until something gets said (just in the course of normal conversation) about it not being what they think it is.
Mathewson’s do have abit of a habit of passing the buck with their “make your own mind up” mantra. They’re making a good cut off buyer and seller, you’d think they’d at least go to the trouble of confirming chassis numbers matched their descriptions?
There is something about that lot I really don't like.

The car is called a 'Cooper S' (nudge, wink) and it really isn't.
I'm sure it's a nice thing but needs to be described as a modified 1967 Austin Mini. The 'Cooper S' (nudge, wink) is misleading.
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In the next CCA sale they have a selection of Minis for all tastes.

First up is a one owner, 24,000 mile old, single tank 65 Austin Cooper S. Looks to be in pretty original condition and is sure to get enthusiasts frothing at the mouth.

https://www.classiccarauctions.co.uk/ev ... oper-1275s

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Next is a Mk3S with an interesting story, pity it is not in it's original colour.

https://www.classiccarauctions.co.uk/ev ... i-cooper-s

70s.jpg

Then we have a 65 Austin built for competition. I remember seeing this at Prescot a few years ago.

https://www.classiccarauctions.co.uk/ev ... oper-s-mk1

hill climb.jpg

And finally we have a one famous owner last of the line Cooper Sport. Will the owner help the price along?

https://www.classiccarauctions.co.uk/ev ... itt-ekland

Britt.jpg


Full catalogue here https://www.classiccarauctions.co.uk/ev ... -2021/cars


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That MK1 s looks very nice... Hopefully it doesn't get restored and just a simple re commissioning..
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Looks like Britt has had more filler than the car.......

(Just noticed that I've had 3528 thinggies. That's one for each cc of my old monster MGB GT V8)
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surfblue63 wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:26 pm
First up is this nice looking 1960 Austin Seven. It looks like a sympathetic restoration has been done.

https://wbandsons.com/listing/austin-mini-seven-deluxe/


Second is this low mileage '73 Clubman Saloon. Asking price looks a little steep to me, but it is good usable condition.

https://wbandsons.com/listing/mini-clubman/

Someone got a bargain today

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With the fees and VAT that makes a total of £8720.



I did not see the bidding for the Clubman so I have no idea of what bids were placed, but it was passed. The advertised starting bid was £7000, weather this is the reserve or not I do not know. But the car is obviously still for sale.
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There are quite a few incorrect details on that 1960 car but, even allowing for that, I reckon you're right and somebody did get a bit of a bargain. For once. Perhaps we'll see it straight back on the market?
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CCA had mixed results.

The one owner, 24,000 mile old, single tank 65 Austin Cooper S was only bid to £40,000, so was a no sale

The Mk3S with an interesting story was only bid to £19,200, so again a no sale

The 65 Austin built for competition sold on the hammer at £19,500, with fees the buyer paid £22,074.

And finally the Britt Ekland Cooper Sport made £17,000 on the hammer, so with fees that makes £19,244.

Watching the auction I think that '60s and '70s cars are on a slight downward trend but 1980's and 90's stuff is on the rise. Must be the changing demographic of those with money to spend.
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Also on Cambridge Miniworks Facebook page dated 4th April 2020 if links not working..not sure why link is so long,

https://www.facebook.com/cambridgeminiw ... GDpndcWh7A

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So some guy from Cambs says he has it in 2020, and someone else selling it on Ebay says he's had it from new, been in the same garage since 1965 in Hertfordshire even though it was registered in Oxfordshire.

Righto then.
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An attractive and very sound-looking car; I would love to own it. BUT...24,000 miles? OK the car is 57 years old but unless it has been exposed to the elements for a great deal of that time, why would the paint have suffered as badly as it has? The steering wheel looks well used and why would the carpets have been replaced? I would love to study the MOT certificates which are referred to; I wouldn't mind betting there is a big chunk of early ones missing. The engine has been rebuilt, hmm, fair enough. I think a bid of £40,000 is very good.
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Great car, would love t own it, think saw it a Goodwood carpark in 2019 and admired it.

Doesn't seem to be with original owner anymore and I think its a bit difficult to price, hence it seems to be rattling around the dealers as they think its maybe worth more than it is.

As almost a museum piece, if history is correct.... it would be terrible to restore it and lose the patina, so what do you do with it, put it in storage ?

Between £30K and £40K seems more realistic - if more, who is the market ?
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Is it as original as claimed though?? I'm pretty sure that the front panel (at least) has been replaced with a later one and the body number held on with screws :?
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Suppose, if it was not a “one owner car” its a just an unrestored £20K -£25K car…….is t it ?
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Description says " engine upgraded 1973 / 74 ". In reality the engine number reads 38G 464- RS- 65886. That seems to be a factory replacement on my list of " 1275cc Introduced in 1970." The engine number on CCA auction listing is 35532. ( Presume that is the suffix of the original engine taken from the V5 ). All very misleading. Car is plainly not what it first seems.
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Andrew1967 wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:04 am The 65 S is on ebay ... £57k ...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203748320449 ... SwbCxhtP7a
So clearly the person selling it isn't the original owner, he has just cribbed from presumably a communication from the actual original owner, so is basically misleading everyone in this respect. I know it's all too easy to be cynical but why would someone do this other than to gain financially ?. Interesting too see if anyone contacts the seller to see what the real story is.
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