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Re: 1964 Rust project
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:38 pm
by Frogeye61
Another Tuesday and more group work on the blue 64 Mini.
Peter got some seats a while ago and we test fitted the general position. I think I have a plan for properly mounting them now. More on that when the time comes.
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I made a template of the left side petrol tank opening, then using that Peter cut a hole in the right side.
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The fit is quite good when the tank is properly in place.
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Stationary mounting of the roll bar implied tweaking a bit. The top corners aren't exactly the same side to side
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Half cm on right and 1.5 cm on left. And this was after compressing the legs trying to install it.
No problem! Just a bit of cable pull. Mounted chain grips to the main bar on the left side to keep the cable in place;
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and put a chain holder on the top right side.
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I tweaked it a bit by pulling - hard, a bit more, and again a bit more.
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In the end it was "much" better, that is to mean nearly the same distance on both sides. I had to take it out to bend the right side main bar a bit outward, just to relieve static stress.
Actual positioning of the main hoop is primarily done by placement of the rear left foot. It is the one with the diagonal (triangulation), which generally can't be tweaked.
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Positioning of the main hoop (front) feet is done by tweaking the main hoop.
Despite what I wrote before, it will come out for painting.
Re: 1964 Rust project
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:19 pm
by Andrew1967
Just started re-reading the thread and studying the pictures carefully.
Giving me ideas and solutions to problems that I am coming up against with HOY's shell and also making me realise that it IS feasible.
Fantastic thread
I know I've said that before......and I will say it again I'm sure

Re: 1964 Rust project
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:50 am
by Frogeye61
There are lots more pictures on the flickr site.
Re: 1964 Rust project
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:58 pm
by Andrew1967
Frogeye61 wrote:There are lots more pictures on the flickr site.

Brilliant
Re: 1964 Rust project
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:48 am
by Frogeye61
Well, last night I decided to do something about the seat mount. Tim who will drive the car daily is a bit taller than I am and quite a bit taller than his father Peter, who initiated this build. The seat needs to be adjustable!
I suppose I could have started off with the standard front seat mounts, which are a very cost effective solution, but we really wanted something that would mount the seat adjuster a bit further back and since I would have to modify it anyway, I decided to just make some myself.
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frogeye61, on Flickr
They came out quite well but way too long time. I won't do that for my own car. So far only one bolt hole along the length.
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As can be seen above, there is only one mounting bolt on the seat bottom. I had cut off the other two height adjusters which all would have mounted the seat much too high. I'm considering cutting down the back legs.
Now there are only questions of: F / R adjustment. Height adjustment. Angle adjustment. I will have to get Tim here to test it.
Both supporting the rear seat legs at the bottom, and latching the seat down in the back are also considerations.
As it is, it does slide;
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and tilt, which gives a very limited access to the back seat area (for not much more than small things).
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Re: 1964 Rust project
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:54 am
by Frogeye61
A very rainy Tuesday and we didn't get much done on the Mini. Mostly the seat mounts. Aside from adjusting the seats for Tim, who didn't come to help, both in front height, rear height (for angle), we found that they were too close to the B-post. Again modifying the existing seat mounts by offsetting to the inside,
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and making two more for the other side.
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The seat now appears to not conflict with the B-post and slides front and rear with no problem. It also still tilts.
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Re: 1964 Rust project
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:46 am
by Frogeye61
Few images from Tuesday evening, though quite a bit of work done.
Final adjustment of the seat
with Tim the final operator - and steering wheel in place. The picture is not the final fit!
Welded force-distribution-plates onto the back legs. Otherwise the seat legs will put dents in the floor.
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Made hold-down straps for both the right side tank in Peter's Mini and also for my own 64 Mini left tank, just because I didn't have one.
Cleaned rear trumpets including removing the completely rusted-on rubber cones. Had to use a Wood saw, lubricated with WD40. It worked a charm to peel the rubber back. Then used a grinder to relieve the rust-fit onto the cone. Then just a bit of clean-up and they're fine. Also cleaned and readied for paint at least one rear suspension arm. The brakes are already new so it's only paint.
More cleaning on the fuzz glued all over the back seat and parcel shelf, and all ready for prepping for epoxy primer which will happen next Tuesday.
Re: 1964 Rust project
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:40 pm
by Frogeye61
Well, after all this cleanup it's starting to look good.
Firstly, cleaning up the trumpets didn't do a lot of good since I asked Peter why he didn't just get some hi-los. So he pulled a set out of a box laying around. OK, enough for that!
After huge amounts of sanding and smoothing of the body, this Saturday was primer day. This is the first coat of epoxy, thinned well enough to go on with a "roller". I didn't think too much of the idea, but it worked a charm. A second coat, and a first coat where it isn't done yet, will happen after the holidays.
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Re: 1964 Rust project
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:43 pm
by Frogeye61
Yesterday Tim started with seam sealing the bottom...
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while Peter prepared the suspension components for epoxy black.
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Once the suspension components were covered...
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there was some epoxy paint left over.
Rather than it going to waste, Peter applied it to the bottom of the car, just not where the seam sealer is. The intention is that the bottom and engine compartment is black epoxy anyway, so one more coat should be fine.
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We have slightly different road conditions here than the chaps in America with lots of salt in the winter. Since this isn't a trailer queen car, and intended to drive in the winter, it gets epoxy everywhere necessary and other rust prevention methods.
Re: 1964 Rust project
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:32 pm
by Frogeye61
Well, holidays were long enough and with family visits I haven't had much time to work on the projects, but here is what we have gotten done.
Bottom of car completely sealed and epoxy'ed
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All external seams
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Boot floor, main floor
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Engine room
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Rear subframe powder coated, suspension parts epoxy'ed and all assembled
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And we dug out the wheels so once the suspension is mounted we will be able to roll it around, like for example to the paint shop
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Re: 1964 Rust project
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:12 am
by mk1
Thanks for the update!
Some great work there.
Re: 1964 Rust project
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:58 am
by Frogeye61
So, it's been a while. What with Christmas and a visit from my son who lives near Virginia/W.Virginia border, My trip to America for the Grand National Roadster Show in Pomona Ca, A trip to India for electronic hardware configuration on a test facility, and of course a little bit of work on the old-rusty 64 Mini.
Between all that, Peter and I managed to get the rear suspension assembled with many new parts, bushings, Hi-Los, brake pipes, shoes etc. Notably with liberal amounts of copper grease, apparently to help prevent future rusting of the fasteners.
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We then found time to assemble the front suspension.
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The one in the back is for my own car painted with epoxy paint, while Peter's subframes are done with power-coat.
Peter had not been at our Tuesday work evening for several weeks. While he was away in Greece one time, I mounted the steering rack.
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The next week I got another friend to help put the subframe in place then take the car down and set it on it's own four.
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With steering mounted I didn't have the key, so by the next week Peter had emailed me the location of the key so I could actually turn the steering wheel. (sorry purists, no original steering shaft on this one)
Peter has since been back and mounted the front subframe top bolts while he delivered the engine/gearbox for some work.
I apologize for the lack of updates, but frankly we haven't gotten much done due to work considerations and the Beast from the East, not to mention the wife decided that a bit of domestic work is necessary (rebuild stairs in home and tile floor in summer house, neither of which are completely finished)
Re: 1964 Rust project
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:31 am
by baptiste
you ve done so much work since that
it's not the same car anymore , well done
Re: 1964 Rust project
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:32 am
by Frogeye61
It's been a while now. I've been on vacation to Florida, round birthday celebrated in Juelsminde, confirmations, and other social stuff had been getting in the way of the real interests.
So since the Mini has wider wheels than standard, and there are laws about covering the tires, we had to add wing extensions. A cheap set, difficult to install
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We made a few repairs to the non-new replacement parts, meaning doors and boot lid.
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The wings were GRP bonded to the wings.
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With a set of wheels, it's looking OK. This includes the set of long steering arm joints so the wheels point straight.
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The car now rolls for the first time out of the garage in about 21 months.
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It is on it's way to the paint shop as I don't think I can do it justice in my little garage, and I don't want to get paint all over everything.
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I had been fitting new cam bearings in the engine
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for a MD266 cam.
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So on Constitution day here in Denmark, while Peter drove the car to the paint shop, Tim and I cleaned the engine thoroughly both inside and outside
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Then I taped it up and painted it.
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In the meantime, Tim cleaned up the starter and generator so I could paint them too.
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Re: 1964 Rust project
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:35 pm
by trevorhp
Great progress

Re: 1964 Rust project
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:51 am
by Frogeye61
Thanks, but it still seems very slow. But as long as it's progressing I think we're ok.
Re: 1964 Rust project
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:12 pm
by Frogeye61
I HAVE MOVED THESE LAST TWO POSTS TO ANOTHER THREAD.
Re: 1964 Rust project
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:56 am
by Frogeye61
I HAVE MOVED THESE LAST TWO POSTS TO ANOTHER THREAD
Re: 1964 Rust project
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 3:18 pm
by Frogeye61
We finally got around to assembling the motor
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It should all be ok, but everything is tested anyway. A couple marginal clearances cleaned up and the short block is done
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Re: 1964 Rust project
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:54 pm
by Frogeye61
Not too much this week. Finally got a correct transfer gear so put these two major components together. Also fiddled with the speedo drive and bearings.
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Then cleaned up the third major component and installed it also.
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It's not the final valve cover.