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The biggest problem is it’s not just around town / villages…we’ve open mountain near me that has gone from 60mph to 30mph in the last 5 yrs and will now be 20mph !
I totally agree around schools / town centers etc it’s a good idea but the blanket approach is utterly ridiculous.

Hi folks, yeah same here in Ireland. Everything in the city is 30kph. Years ago all the primary roads were 60mph and boreens were 50mph. When we changed to kilometers they just swapped the signs. Now they've sorted out the primary roads and set them to 60kph. Motorways are 120kph across the board. But the crazy thing is if you turn off the primary road on to a small road (boreens as we call them), they haven't updated them and the limit is still 80 kph from the original 50mph. So you can do 50 (in old speak) on a boreen but you can only do 40 on a primary road. Nuts. Cheers, Doug.

Brynmor wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:48 pm The biggest problem is it’s not just around town / villages…we’ve open mountain near me that has gone from 60mph to 30mph in the last 5 yrs and will now be 20mph !
I totally agree around schools / town centers etc it’s a good idea but the blanket approach is utterly ridiculous.

Oh that does sound stupid. Blanket approaches rarely work, one size fits none as they say.

Brynmor wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:48 pm The biggest problem is it’s not just around town / villages…we’ve open mountain near me that has gone from 60mph to 30mph in the last 5 yrs and will now be 20mph !
I totally agree around schools / town centers etc it’s a good idea but the blanket approach is utterly ridiculous.

That appalling Drakeford idiot needs money - and you are a default provider.

This must have something to do with local authorities getting more money, out of the government road tax funds if a road is classed as a 30 or 20 MPH road… …??

We have had 20mph limits in most towns in the scottish borders for a year or two now
They have moved the 20mph zone in a bit on some towns
But some are still 20 from sign post to sign post.
Maintaining 20 for up to a couple of miles with no cars in front of you takes practise for sure
As the pushbikes pass you as well

It is now coming to light how much public transport, emergency services and deliveries are going to be impacted, plus of course how it will hit the economy. Still trying to work out how being in second gear mostly will help pollution levels?? The maps are out and locally, it is going to be be quite a struggle, especially at quiet times where we used to have 40 mph for example - now 20???

My friend just got himself six points, 40 in a 20. This was no village though but a main road in the cesspit that is London. The new 20 sign was both tiny and obscured by foliage, not that this stopped the traffic police from having a handy roadside speed check.

A stern word? Some sage advice? No chance.

This is pure revenue generation, nothing more. The regular police generally do a fine job in difficult times but those bastards.....

I’d have to say the only car I drive that’s good in a 20 is a phev… that is until the battery goes flat!

Time to invest in red flags and sensible walking shoes...

In South Australia, the urban default is 50kph, some areas 40 kph. Passing emergency vehicles or school buses with lights flashing and road works 25kph school zones with under 18 year Olds present 25kph.(40 for those in the rest of Australia ). Hard to tell the difference between a 17&18 year old when driving. Open Rd 80, 90, 100 or 110 kph. They also have habit of improving a road significantly then reduce the speed limit on it.

One saving grace for us older minis is that the ANPR and speed cameras can't lock-on to and identify the black and white number plates. Try the ANPR car parks......

Peter, can we be 100% sure this is the case that UK number plates with the Black Background & White Letters cannot be read by these Static & Mobile Cameras ?

Stewartp wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 1:21 pm They also have habit of improving a road significantly then reduce the speed limit on it.

In the UK they simply reduce the speed limit so they don't have to maintain the roads to the same level.
(even noticed how many NSL roads are now 50mph - well the maintenance standards aren't as high on a 50mph road)

GraemeC wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 2:27 pm

Stewartp wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 1:21 pm They also have habit of improving a road significantly then reduce the speed limit on it.

In the UK they simply reduce the speed limit so they don't have to maintain the roads to the same level.
(even noticed how many NSL roads are now 50mph - well the maintenance standards aren't as high on a 50mph road)

Absolutely, just follow the money.....if it was financially beneficial to have a minimum 90 MPH speed limit, then that is what we would have

Norman...., yes. the speed camera needs something positive to lock onto. The big yellow reflector that tells the camera , hello....., it's me

French speed limits were reduced from 90kph to 80 but some of the mayors did not have the money to swap all the road signs so they did not do it. Unfortunately some of the speed cameras in the areas were adjusted to the new lower 80kph speed limit but the road signs were still at 90.
In the Creuse department area of what used to be called the Limousin now the Nouvelle Aquitaine in middle of France where I have a house the speed limits have been put back up to 90kph because they say it has no benefit due to the area being mainly countryside and sparsely populated , my local district has a population of 18 people per square km and the area is indeed mostly countryside, nearest big town is 45minutes away .
Incidentally there is a lovely private circuite about 20minutes from my place in lovely countryside.

https://www.masduclos.com/accueil-circuit

The speed limits don’t stop the French anyway, they still run around in 205’s and Renault 11 in countryside but the French domestic market must have got more powerful engines than we did as these old cars go so fast,mind you the local garage will most likely have some sort of indescribable rolled up piece of metal outside that was once a car.
As for the U.K. , well schools and built up areas should have lower limits and is there any reason to own a electric Tesla saving the planet (supposedly) when they have to be gunned everywhere .
D

Do we need cars that do over 100mph?

First Minister for Wales Mark Drakeford's New Wales' national flag - with the dragon replaced by a red snail....