Lost For Words

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JD have achieved exactly what they intended to do with this advert . They’ve got everyone talking and mentioning their name . Mission accomplished. … Shirley
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It was probably intended for the circus 🎪
Why would one do that to a car...
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"JD Classics are at the heart of the Classic Car Industry in Europe and have Customers all around the World. The Company prepare, race, restore and sell the World's best cars. Woodham Mortimer Limited acquired JD Classics in 2018, an established a Classic Car Dealership and Restoration Company of over 20 years of experience in the industry."
Not lost for words are they? But one needs a willing buyer to part with their laundry. :lol:
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Each to their own but for me the appeal of the Mini is characterised by it's basic simplicity I appreciate go faster mods which do not detract too far from the original and "period" mods/improvement within reason but in my opinion this car is hideous,

I can remember seeing a mini back in the 80's which had the front headlights from an old Mercedes which was tastefully done and for what it was looked good.
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I wouldn't mind betting that under all those modifications and glossy paint, it'll be just like the other coach built cars of that persuasion. There will be no long term deep penetration of preservative to protect the body. After a few years of use the fibreglass (?) stuff will start to de-laminate from the steel body - which in turn will start to corrode. Or the type of car my mum would call '...... all fur coat but no knickers....'
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Interestingly quite a few people on 'The Mini Forum' really like the 1980's excess styling of this Tickford Mini, which I think shows as I said earlier, that Mini enthusiasts belong to a very 'broad church' compared to most other classic cars. Probably because the long production life of the classic Mini spans so many different age groups who have nostalgia and interest for the different eras of style and taste from the 1960's/70's/80's/90's to 2000's.

It would be good to see the Tickford Mini parked up in the Coachbuilt Mini Register Display at Beaulieu, along with a rare example of the Mini B.A.C. M-30 from the 1980's... :D

Ex-Bernie Ecclestone Mini B.A.C. M-30:-
https://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auct ... -bac-m-30/

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If ever you needed an example of hyping a market, there you go.

Advertise at silly price. Sell it for a realistic one, then just say it sold. The 'market' assumes it sold around or even remotely close to the daft asking price and this then justifies high prices of far better cars.

That car will never go near an auction - or at least, not with real bidders. A couple of pillars at the back of the room may bid it up to the reserve, then mysteriously bow out. Car then sells post auction for undisclosed sum. and may miraculously appear for sale again a year or 2 down the line the 'buyer' having traded it in. Just a theory mind ;)

Don't believe the hype.......

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I saw this car at Goodwood in the Bonhams auction.
Hideous, Ghastly, Crock of crap, Overpriced, Rusty, Utter litter, Ten times overpriced...

JD Classics must be celebrating getting over the hurdle of their recent legal woes by trying to recoup some of the fees.
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Not a fan then Alex? :lol:
Are JD even the same company in reality? Aren’t they all new big time Charlies? As has been mentioned before it’s an odd brand to want to revive isn’t it considering the backstory.
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Pete, I think it is a continuation of the same trading company. When the excrement hit the ventilation device they were bought out and rebranded as Woodham Mortimer (I think it was), and then a wee while back, no doubt after a critical stage in the legal process, they became W-M trading as JD Classics.

I am sure they are a new legal entity (JD 2023 ltd or some such), completely separate from the one Mr Hood ran, so not liable for any of the liabilities involved, but they have obviously thought that post court case, and with it appearing to be the case that Mr H as controlling mind was central to that, and with him gone, the brand value was sufficient to re-use.

Similar in a lot of ways to my former employers at various times..... ;)

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I noticed that JD have reduced the asking prices of two of the coachbuilt Minis they currently have, the ex-John Hammell W&P Mk2 S is now £110k and the Radford Mk2 S is now £125k.
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mab01uk wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 10:17 am Interestingly quite a few people on 'The Mini Forum' really like the 1980's excess styling of this Tickford Mini, which I think shows as I said earlier, that Mini enthusiasts belong to a very 'broad church' compared to most other classic cars. Probably because the long production life of the classic Mini spans so many different age groups who have nostalgia and interest for the different eras of style and taste from the 1960's/70's/80's/90's to 2000's.

It would be good to see the Tickford Mini parked up in the Coachbuilt Mini Register Display at Beaulieu, along with a rare example of the Mini B.A.C. M-30 from the 1980's... :D

Ex-Bernie Ecclestone Mini B.A.C. M-30:-
https://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auct ... -bac-m-30/

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Thats a very nice car..
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Yep, agreed, Nice build and spec.
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Well I was there - until 1980, so I just missed this one...
AML (75) Ltd was in all honesty under capitalised, just saved from annihilation caused by a spiv Brummie.....
The V8 car was already feeling a bit long in the tooth, (though ultimately it did run much longer), so some quick and not so cheap refreshes, Volante, Vantage, (vantage Volante) Oscar India and the wow factor Lagonda Series 2.
If I'd known what I know now I too would have been looking to diversify, and what better way to bring new cachet to the business by any halo projects under the Tickford Banner. (Crow loudly when its acclaimed, or say ' well its only a Tickford' when not so well received. Bricklin, Bulldog, Sunchaser, The AM MGB, Sierra 500.Frazer Metro etc).
Would you rather the company did nothing and withered a sad painful death?
In the coachbuilding business, how many lemons does it take to make Lemonade? There probably isnt one Carrosserie without some ungainly/ill defined renditions which got to the road thanks to some wealthy but stylistically challenged clients paying through the nose for their unique car.
So, should AML/Tickford have refused the job out of hand on first sight? or be brave enough to say yes, we did this, but we can also do a very different job for you!
Who knows it could have been part of the folded edge school of automotive styling. Just because its unfamiliar its easy to deride - ugh that jelly mould isnt a patch on a Cortina...(but they sold hundreds of thousands of em across the world so just because it hurts your eyes today doesnt mean it wont take on a rosy tint tomorrow.) Bizarrely familiarity breeds admirers.
It is true, coachbuilding is all about first owner, he (or she) pays for the job. And generally they know in their own Taxation environment how long they will keep it before repeating the process - they pay, but will get their money back. They wont pay for a body sturdy enough to get to the moon, nor would they give a damn about corrosion protection to challenge the pyramids. Bristol Cars make me laugh, if it wouldnt fit their 4ft box bender it didnt get made in steel!
I see Vantage eque air dam and blanked grill, perhaps a Lag or Bulldog set of lamps? Its a crying shame no one sorted out the 25 year old cabin A surface panels really!
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