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Re: 4 wheel drive
Pete,
You Utter Gem !!!!
I've searched all over for footage like that and never found any, Thanks SO much for posting up.
There 's got to be some footage of it at Lydden Hill, somewhere......
Now, could you just nip off and find footage of the Auto Point series when they used Mokes, Twinis, and reputedly an Ant ?
Cheers Pete, you're a star!
Roger
You Utter Gem !!!!
I've searched all over for footage like that and never found any, Thanks SO much for posting up.
There 's got to be some footage of it at Lydden Hill, somewhere......
Now, could you just nip off and find footage of the Auto Point series when they used Mokes, Twinis, and reputedly an Ant ?
Cheers Pete, you're a star!
Roger
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Re: 4 wheel drive
Facebook does have it's uses (not that I'm a member), though a lot of interesting stuff on there mainly appears on here first!
As I'm sure you know Ronnie White owns the 4WD Clubman now, he was no slouch in a Mini! :
http://www.rallycrosstube.com/video/850 ... uarry-1982
As I'm sure you know Ronnie White owns the 4WD Clubman now, he was no slouch in a Mini! :
http://www.rallycrosstube.com/video/850 ... uarry-1982
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Re: 4 wheel drive
Thoroughly enjoyed that. I knew there'd have to have been something somewhere.
Thanks Pete.
Thanks Pete.
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Re: 4 wheel drive
The Austin Ant that has been in private hands here in Australia has just changed hands. It's now owned by the editor of The BMC Experience magazine, Craig Watson.
See his Facebook page here - https://www.facebook.com/bmcexperience/ ... 2402876335
See his Facebook page here - https://www.facebook.com/bmcexperience/ ... 2402876335
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Re: 4 wheel drive
Having been involved in motorsport in Northern Ireland for more than 45 years if I had to single out one driver it would be Ronnie White. Ronnie’s achievements have to be recognised. Ronnie White throughout the sixties and seventies dominated Autocross, Rallycross, Sprints and Hillclimbs in Ireland.
Ronnie in person is a true gentleman who still loves motorsport with a passion. Ronnie White’s achievements and commitment to motorsport in Northern Ireland is without equal in my opinion.
Paddy Hopkirk 5 times Circuit of Ireland winner and 1964 Monte Carlo Rally winner and Alec Poole winning the 1969 1000 cc British Touring Car Championship are great achievements but it was always Ronnie White we wanted to beat in our Minis.
I never recall Ronnie racing the 4-wheel drive Clubman.
Attached are photographs I took earlier this year with Ronnie White sitting between two other top Minimen Robert Dickson and Elgin Greer
Alan
Ronnie in person is a true gentleman who still loves motorsport with a passion. Ronnie White’s achievements and commitment to motorsport in Northern Ireland is without equal in my opinion.
Paddy Hopkirk 5 times Circuit of Ireland winner and 1964 Monte Carlo Rally winner and Alec Poole winning the 1969 1000 cc British Touring Car Championship are great achievements but it was always Ronnie White we wanted to beat in our Minis.
I never recall Ronnie racing the 4-wheel drive Clubman.
Attached are photographs I took earlier this year with Ronnie White sitting between two other top Minimen Robert Dickson and Elgin Greer
Alan
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Re: 4 wheel drive
I'll second that sentiment.
From discussions I've had with Ronnie about the Clubman and it's use of Moke mechanicals, he really is a true gentleman and SO helpful.
Ronnie, if you're reading this I will take you up on your offer just as soon as I can get over!
Cheers
Roger
From discussions I've had with Ronnie about the Clubman and it's use of Moke mechanicals, he really is a true gentleman and SO helpful.
Ronnie, if you're reading this I will take you up on your offer just as soon as I can get over!
Cheers
Roger
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Thanks for that Roger, what these three men in that photograph don’t know about Minis is not worth knowing. Then again between them there would be close to 150 years experience. I should say all three are gentlemen in my book
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Re: 4 wheel drive
Mab01uk
That was essentially the layout for the British 4WD Moke, and the Australian one too. The Ant system is very different indeed. When I get some time I'll take a pic of the entire drive-train without the casings to compare against this diagram. One thing to note on this scheme, is that they fitted the dog clutch on the rear diff pinion rather than the front one. Why? Less un-powered drag. The prop turns whether you're in 2WD or 4WD, but when in 2WD and the wheels have to power the prop at more than double axle rpm there is likelihood of the lightweight Moke losing traction on one or both rear wheels and initiating a skid. So on both Moke and Ant the prop clutches out on the rear diff and the prop is always powered from the front.
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That was essentially the layout for the British 4WD Moke, and the Australian one too. The Ant system is very different indeed. When I get some time I'll take a pic of the entire drive-train without the casings to compare against this diagram. One thing to note on this scheme, is that they fitted the dog clutch on the rear diff pinion rather than the front one. Why? Less un-powered drag. The prop turns whether you're in 2WD or 4WD, but when in 2WD and the wheels have to power the prop at more than double axle rpm there is likelihood of the lightweight Moke losing traction on one or both rear wheels and initiating a skid. So on both Moke and Ant the prop clutches out on the rear diff and the prop is always powered from the front.
Roger G
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Re: 4 wheel drive
Thread revival of a Thread revival - how many times can it be raised from the dead ?
Mark Radford of the MOA has recently put together a short (draft) video of this Moke in it's first guise ;-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8c1vH9 ... e=youtu.be
The 4WD Mentioned here that I made a new Gearbox for, as mentioned elsewhere in this thread, was originally built by (Mad) Max Kinsmore in SA, he was at that time a member of our Club. As it stands today, this Moke - Quadra as the late Ross Perkins christen it when he bought it - is actually in it's 3rd major 'rebuild' form. Max rebuilt it once, then after selling it to his neighbor, Wolfgang, he rebuilt it again in to another body and it was from Wolfgang that Ross bought it.Spider wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2012 9:09 am Thread revival!
Some of you guys maybe interested to see a follow up on the Quadra that Jan posted the pics up of. It suffered a major failure a while ago and here is a link to the repair of the gearbox;-
https://www.theminiforum.co.uk/forums/t ... onversion/
Cheers fellas
Spider
Mark Radford of the MOA has recently put together a short (draft) video of this Moke in it's first guise ;-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8c1vH9 ... e=youtu.be
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Re: 4 wheel drive
Remember looking at the Rallycross 4wd Clubman it was shown at a Silverstone event ..me crawled under the 4wd Clubman just to see the "extra" rear drive shaft coming outward from the Gearbox Diff Housing
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Mark's final version of his video can be seen here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFG-fc6xksYSpider wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:02 am Thread revival of a Thread revival - how many times can it be raised from the dead ?
The 4WD Mentioned here that I made a new Gearbox for, as mentioned elsewhere in this thread, was originally built by (Mad) Max Kinsmore in SA, he was at that time a member of our Club. As it stands today, this Moke - Quadra as the late Ross Perkins christen it when he bought it - is actually in it's 3rd major 'rebuild' form. Max rebuilt it once, then after selling it to his neighbor, Wolfgang, he rebuilt it again in to another body and it was from Wolfgang that Ross bought it.Spider wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2012 9:09 am Thread revival!
Some of you guys maybe interested to see a follow up on the Quadra that Jan posted the pics up of. It suffered a major failure a while ago and here is a link to the repair of the gearbox;-
https://www.theminiforum.co.uk/forums/t ... onversion/
Cheers fellas
Spider
Mark Radford of the MOA has recently put together a short (draft) video of this Moke in it's first guise ;-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8c1vH9 ... e=youtu.be