Brake pedals - Drum vs Disc
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Re: Brake pedals - Drum vs Disc
Does anyone know whether the pedals themselves are different between a RHD car and a LHD car? MiniSpares list a disc brake pedal on their website (out of stock), but it is clearly listed as an RHD pedal.
I previously understood there was no difference.
I previously understood there was no difference.
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Re: Brake pedals - Drum vs Disc
There is indeed a difference. One is straight, the other one is bent.
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Re: Brake pedals - Drum vs Disc
In my world, the laws of physics prevail .... as properly stated by Vergard. Smiffy's diagram is irrelevant to any discussion on pedal weight/leverage.... although we might infer a slightly higher unloaded pedal..
This might be important - if the pedal is in danger of running into the floor (like a clutch pedal) before full force can be applied. But you need to look at the angle between the lines joining the pivot/master pin hole and the pivot/back of pedal. ... if you are concerned.
Must admit I find my drum pedal/disc setup indistinguishable from my full S setup.
Maybe if you don't like the relative pedal heights - when heel and toeing or otherwise - you could try the alternative?
Cheers, Ian
This might be important - if the pedal is in danger of running into the floor (like a clutch pedal) before full force can be applied. But you need to look at the angle between the lines joining the pivot/master pin hole and the pivot/back of pedal. ... if you are concerned.
Must admit I find my drum pedal/disc setup indistinguishable from my full S setup.
Maybe if you don't like the relative pedal heights - when heel and toeing or otherwise - you could try the alternative?
Cheers, Ian
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Re: Brake pedals - Drum vs Disc
Below shows the difference between 3 types of pedal.
They all had the pivot and clevis pin hole fixed to show the difference.
The first pedal is a standard drum brake pedal off my mk1, the second pedal is a genuine S pedal and the third is a late 80's pedal with the pad cut down.
The S pedal had the pad approx 15mm higher than the S pedal and the late pedal is another 20mm higher than the S.

They all had the pivot and clevis pin hole fixed to show the difference.
The first pedal is a standard drum brake pedal off my mk1, the second pedal is a genuine S pedal and the third is a late 80's pedal with the pad cut down.
The S pedal had the pad approx 15mm higher than the S pedal and the late pedal is another 20mm higher than the S.

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Re: Brake pedals - Drum vs Disc
I had terrible pedal (very low) on my Mk3 drum braked Mini when i converted to S brakes, BUT i was using a twin brake master (no booster)
I took the pedal out, replaced it with a 1981 pedal box, which has the brake pedal cranked away from the floor, and bang, i had good brakes.
Later I replaced the S calipers with a set of 4 pots from Guru Richy, still with the dual master.
I took the pedal out, replaced it with a 1981 pedal box, which has the brake pedal cranked away from the floor, and bang, i had good brakes.
Later I replaced the S calipers with a set of 4 pots from Guru Richy, still with the dual master.
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Re: Brake pedals - Drum vs Disc
Hi all,this weekend I took my mini spares single line servo off my 63, because I don't really like the feel, although it stopped ok.
The brakes consist of 7.5 disks, S calipers, green stuff pads, tin master cylinder and what I think is a drum brake pedal. Now it's removed they are decidedly wooden, I'm not sure I could exert enough pressure to lock the wheels, it just pulls up steady. The pedal doesn't go to the floor, so it's not that. Where would u look next? The pads? They were on the car when I got it and seemed to be ok with the servo assistance, but I can't really find a good word said about them? I haven't really got any heat in them to see if they improve, but would rather a pad that works well from cold anyway. I don't really want to replace the servo. Any suggestions? Thanks.
The brakes consist of 7.5 disks, S calipers, green stuff pads, tin master cylinder and what I think is a drum brake pedal. Now it's removed they are decidedly wooden, I'm not sure I could exert enough pressure to lock the wheels, it just pulls up steady. The pedal doesn't go to the floor, so it's not that. Where would u look next? The pads? They were on the car when I got it and seemed to be ok with the servo assistance, but I can't really find a good word said about them? I haven't really got any heat in them to see if they improve, but would rather a pad that works well from cold anyway. I don't really want to replace the servo. Any suggestions? Thanks.
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Re: Brake pedals - Drum vs Disc
You have just got used to the servo, in a day or two the brakes will feel "normal" again.
As long as the pedal doesn't have "slack" in it, I wouldn't worry too much.
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As long as the pedal doesn't have "slack" in it, I wouldn't worry too much.
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Re: Brake pedals - Drum vs Disc
Haha so what your saying is, I should man up! Well I only ran round for half an hour or so, so I'll give it some more time and see what I think. My clubby is unservoed but is to different to compare, it's a lot lighter, has mini sport 7.9 4pots and a KAD pedal box. That pulls up just fine, but like I say, chalk and cheese. Would peolpe suggest some 1144 pads?
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Re: Brake pedals - Drum vs Disc
Try softer pads.yorkspv wrote:Hi all,this weekend I took my mini spares single line servo off my 63, because I don't really like the feel, although it stopped ok.
The brakes consist of 7.5 disks, S calipers, green stuff pads, tin master cylinder and what I think is a drum brake pedal. Now it's removed they are decidedly wooden, I'm not sure I could exert enough pressure to lock the wheels, it just pulls up steady. The pedal doesn't go to the floor, so it's not that. Where would u look next? The pads? They were on the car when I got it and seemed to be ok with the servo assistance, but I can't really find a good word said about them? I haven't really got any heat in them to see if they improve, but would rather a pad that works well from cold anyway. I don't really want to replace the servo. Any suggestions? Thanks.
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Re: Brake pedals - Drum vs Disc
Which is which ?Vegard wrote:There is indeed a difference. One is straight, the other one is bent.
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Re: Brake pedals - Drum vs Disc
Could someone measure the thickness of the 2 pedals to help identify ? for the folks that dont know what we have fitted? That would be handy.
edit, mine looks to be a drum brake pedal on a disk brake car judging by the pedal plate size and poor brake pedal. thickness of the pedal is 3.5mm ,I am going to look into this for sure
edit, mine looks to be a drum brake pedal on a disk brake car judging by the pedal plate size and poor brake pedal. thickness of the pedal is 3.5mm ,I am going to look into this for sure

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Re: Brake pedals - Drum vs Disc
I fitted green stuff pads on mine & I hated them, I use ordinary black pads, great for everyday use.
Re: Brake pedals - Drum vs Disc
madaboutcherry wrote:I fitted green stuff pads on mine & I hated them, I use ordinary black pads, great for everyday use.
Green stuff are shit, End of. Mintex 1144 (irrc) pads are best ones I've used actually stop the car pretty damn well.