rosepetal question

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rosepetal question

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how wide were original rosepetal wheels?
4.5 or 4.75 inches?
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If with "original rosepetal" you mean to say Cooper mag's (the ones that Cooper made and that's without the Cooper Car Co in the rim) than it 4,5" but if you refer to rosepetals (i think Vortz started to call them like that) then it's 4,75" as Vrotsos just made them in his design a little wider on the inside.
Side by side they are not the same but alike.
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I can/will buy a set of rosepetals, but would like to know what they are before.
I have some pictures, but can not load them up now.
Can anyone here do that for me?
i can send them via mail....
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Andreas, I can post your pics, send them to me.

Sadly the derrington description doesn't give a wheel width;

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I have a set of what I believe to be original Rose petals and they are 4 1/2" wide , measured at the inside of the rim lip.

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Here the pics of my rosepetals...

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I love these wheels....

When my 6 numbers come in I WILL have a set for my mk1
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my questions do not end....

I have the wheels now, they are 4.5 inch wide.
This is a point for cooper car co wheels.
Is it right that the vortz wheels are all 4.75 wide ?
In the Derrington ad, the wheels are advertises as magnesium wheels with 6 lbs,(2.72kg) but my wheels are 3.4 kg each.
My 4.5 inch Minilite magnesium wheels are at 2.4 kg each....

I do not believe that my wheels are Japanes copies, because the seller had them for 25 years.
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I have the wheels now, they are 4.5 inch wide.
This is a point for cooper car co wheels.
Is it right that the vortz wheels are all 4.75 wide ?
As far as I´m aware, all Vortz 10" CRs are 4.75" wide... 4.5" should be cooper car co from the ´60ies. Some of the details in your pictures also speak for this...
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I thought the originals had the smaller centre hole, which made it harder these days to get the wheels balanced ?
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tjw89 wrote:I thought the originals had the smaller centre hole,
which made it harder these days to get the wheels balanced ?
They do/did, and yes - it was a "pigs" job to get the wheels balanced :roll:

Had to make adaptors, and recut the thread, on 4 of my wheel nuts.
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I think there is a chance that the holes have been made bigger for easier balancing.
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Here's a pretty early shot of them being used on a Cooper Car Co race car, this being the first appearance of a 1275 'S' at Silverstone, May '64.


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I do remember seeing an ad for them being introduced from mid- late '63. Can I find it though ? :roll:
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A lot of the originals had the centres machined out for exactly that reason. M
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