64' cooper remote painted or not?

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64' cooper remote painted or not?

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Hi Lads,
I stripped, cleaned and rebuilt the remote tonight for AKY (my 1071) and I was surprised to find green paint behind the rear rubber mounting. I also found green paint on the 1/2" metal spacer that sits on the gear leaver flange. Anyone know if these remotes were painted green with the engine assembly.
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As far as I am aware, they were painted.

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That's interesting Mark, many people I have spoken to reckon they were never painted. Have you come across painted remotes on some of your cars or car you have worked on.
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I don't know either way but can say I've never seen one with paint on.
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The remote on my '66 shows no sign of paint and neither does a spare one I have. Maybe it's fallen off but they are absoluetly bare of paint.

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I've got an Austin Cooper S from 1965, produced for Switzerland (LHD) with a painted remote housing.

And I remeber an old photo of a factory hall full of engines ready to fit with, all with painted remotes. Unfortunately I can't find it anymore.

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I cant say that that I've noticed any paint on either of my mk1's and have always assumed that they were unpainted.

However, I seem to remember stories about the remotes being honed to suit the gearbox. If that is true, it would make sense that they were painted at the same time as the engine/box
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I can see us all out in our garages the weekend taking the rubber mounting off the back of our old remotes to see if there is any green underneath. LOL
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I've got a 67 s with 11,373 miles on it. I've got complete history,orig. invoice and all service bills. It's never been apart. There is no paint on the shifter. I would guess things just weren't that consistant day to day.
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I am picking the shift extension may have been fitted after the subframe and engine etc was fitted, not sure why though.

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the remote off our one former keeper 64 cooper is painted but its nearly all flaked off now
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When I owned AKY ***B I was pretty sure that it had never been apart. So if it has green paint on the remote I would think that it had always been there.
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I have seen a good few un messed with cars where there was evidence of paint on the remote, somewhere I have also seen photos of engines with painted remotes.

Will have a dig & see what I can find.

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Re: 64' cooper remote painted or not?

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Not easy to tell definitively, but I would say it didn't look silver:

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But having said that, it does on this one;

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Maybe it's another one of those could be couldn't be questions.
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seems from what ive seen over the years,,and im no cooper expert,,that a lot of the 997 had painted remotes,,

our 1964 998 cooper had deffo never been apart,,the old boy had it from new and ran it till it dropped...coz it never had a spanner laid on it in 48 yrs :lol:

the oil was like....ashphalt....and the black death was so bad in the rocker cover you couldnt see the valve springs.... the rocker cover wouldnt accept any more oil for topping up as it was blocked solid with tars and resins....

when the rocker cover was "smashed off" the shape of the rocker cover remained intact-in solid baked on sludge,,,,was hilarious! was like a jelly mould.

the engine was quiet with no rattles....absolutely bizarre!!!!!! the sludge deadened all the noise!



wasnt nice to strip and rebuild,,thats for sure
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mk1 wrote:
But having said that, it does on this one;

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Maybe it's another one of those could be couldn't be questions.
You beat me to it, knew i had seen a picture of a assembled engine / box & frame.

There is another & bigger picture of this in John Bridgden,s book on page 99.

Do anyone know where the pic was taken ?
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Thanks for all the comments lads. I don't know what to do now to be honest. Some say yes some say no! Has anyone else checked behind the rubber mounting on the back of the remote. As there was no green paint found on the top of my remote either. You have to remember the green paint would fall off the Ali as the paint would have such bad grip. So the only reliable place to find the green paint would be under the mounting as the paint is sandwiched between the two.
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You could do what BMC did with most aluminium castings. Prep it poorly, paint it and then let the paint fall off.

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You could do what BMC did with most aluminium castings. Prep it poorly, paint it and then let the paint fall off.

This would without a doubt be most accurate. :lol:

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I just wonder how the paint knows that it has to fall off the aluminium remote housing completely or to stay on the aluminium casting gearbox :lol: :lol:

Both items are mounted together and are located in the same environment.

There must be something more than just poor preperation.

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