No, definitely not a ringer...........

[618AOG]

http://www.classic-auctions.com/Auction ... t=LotTitle

12th Austin Seven Mini built. Would be great if it wasn't a cherry red Morris!

[minimk1man]

This car was sold on eBay 2 or 3 years ago for around £4k. I contacted the then owner to check it out and it transpired that it was indeed a 1960 Morris. It was even badged as a Morris. He had owned the car for a number of years. He bought it from a number plate dealer in Hull who transferred the original number off it before selling the car to him. ( I think you can all make your own conclusions ).
Now the car has an Austin grille and badges but the Cherry Red colour remains along with its Morris interior.
H&H have been made aware. Be interesting to see if it gets withdrawn.

[nick rogers]

Let's play 'Spot the errors". I'll start.
1. Morris speedo
2.Brake master cyl wrong way round
3.Double skin boot lid
4.Wrong horn
5. Strange bootlid badging
6. Cranked gearstick.

Your turn.....

[Lord Croker]

Am I right in thinking those are the wrong wheel trims? Both of my very early Minis had the small hub cap like the van & Cooper 'S'. I'm sure they also had the chassis number plate rivetted on, not fixed with self tappers.

[mab01uk]

Am I right in thinking those are the wrong wheel trims? Both of my very early Minis had the small hub cap like the van & Cooper 'S'. I'm sure they also had the chassis number plate rivetted on, not fixed with self tappers.

I think the now quite rare 'basic' early Mini's had the small hub caps while the early 'deluxe' had the larger trims but with rectangular holes and slightly smaller outside diameter than later deluxe type. The chassis plate on some of my early Mini's were also fixed with self-tappers from factory.

[mab01uk]

Let's play 'Spot the errors". I'll start.
1. Morris speedo
2.Brake master cyl wrong way round
3.Double skin boot lid
4.Wrong horn
5. Strange bootlid badging
6. Cranked gearstick.

Your turn.....

7. Looks like it has the later gutter drip rails.
8. Doubt it has non-recessed front/rear screen apertures (photos not good enough to check!)
http://www.1959miniregister.com/the-195 ... k-changes/

[66S]

I'm not an early car expert but I make the following observations:

Roof gutter drains
Wrong master cylinders
Wrong washer bottle
Wrong radiator
Wrong door pocket kick plates
Double hole sliding glass
Roof drip rail
Sealed beam headlights
Looks like 2 hole sliding glasses
No door cables
Wrong bumpers

There will be many more !!

Al

[Old English White]

I thought these auction houses paid consultants to check their entries
The boot badging is particularly laughable
I did notice the careful use of the word "apparently" in their description though.
It'll be interesting to see if it makes the auction OR makes it's money!

[guru_1071]

ive known this car for years, it was (or the logbook thats attached to it was) apparently the first mini registered in edinburgh.

the seller of this car is fully aware of the history of this vehicle.

i think he paid around six grand? for it when he bought a couple of years ago.

[bill773mini]

i think he paid around six grand? for it when he bought a couple of years ago.

£4k

[johnsimister]

DVLA record says it's an Austin registered on 30 August 1959, which seems late in the day for the 12th example made. At least, that's what the age-related number plate pertains to. As for the 1960 Morris itself, I wonder what happened to its identity. The auction ad says the Austin was re-shelled in the first year. It seems to have had a bit more than a re-shell this time...

The question is... why? Is it just an inept attempt to add value to quite a nice Morris?

John

[guru_1071]

i think he paid around six grand? for it when he bought a couple of years ago.

£4k

i did say 'around'

[guru_1071]

DVLA record says it's an Austin registered on 30 August 1959, which seems late in the day for the 12th example made. At least, that's what the age-related number plate pertains to. As for the 1960 Morris itself, I wonder what happened to its identity. The auction ad says the Austin was re-shelled in the first year. It seems to have had a bit more than a re-shell this time...

The question is... why? Is it just an inept attempt to add value to quite a nice Morris?

John

john, i know this car from old and in its self its got quite an interesting story.

in short (and there is more to this, but its not fair on the seller of the car really), there was a guy in Hull who, for years, dabbled with bmc cars, his garden was always full of dead and dying morris minors and 1100's and what not, in his workshop he had a few better cars, including a pair of early minis, one red, one green.

20 years ago i used to go and buy bits and bobs off him, and the story about the two minis was that some old guy had owned them and really looked after the shells, the green one (i think) had grease nipples fitted to the sills and the old guy would pump grease into them to keep the rot away. i tried to buy the cars years ago (as did loads of people), but they where never for sale. at that point they where both part stripped cars with no number plates fitted - i suspect that they would have been both local Hull cars. back then there was no value in the age of the cars, they where just a pair of old minis, all be it in very good bodily condition (they where the first mk1's id ever seen that didnt need any panel work - they really where a pair of beauties)

about 10 years ago i heard that he was selling up - probably the council got onto him about the state of the garden, as all the rubbish vanished.

then, lo and behold the complete car turns up on ebay, for sale by the guy in Hull....

ive actually since met the pearson who bought the car off ebay, but he, although knowing that the car wasnt 100% right, had swallowed the story that he had been given, and i suppose why not?

i dont know what happened to the green car, its either still there, or was built up and sold.

[bill773mini]

i did say 'around'

The question is... why? Is it just an inept attempt to add value to quite a nice Morris?

Number Plate John.

john, i know this car from old and in its self its got quite an interesting story.

Very interesting Rich, fills in a few gaps in our knowledge of it.

ive actually since met the pearson who bought the car off ebay, but he, although knowing that the car wasnt 100% right, had swallowed the story that he had been given, and i suppose why not?

David's a nice guy and he's not well at the moment, but he was 100% aware of it's dubious parentage when he bought it as he asked us about it before buying it. He was quite happy as just wanted a nice usable early MK1 and didn't care what year etc it was. Fair enough and good for him, 18 months on and I think 108 selling may have created some amnesia though.

David has a beautiful 48 Low Light Moggy in the same sale, never restored (but re-painted) and immaculate. Another one Mr Ripley just missed out on years ago.

[bill773mini]

It's been withdrawn from the sale.

[ivor badger]

But it has got a Mk2 bootlid.