How to tell if a head is ‘any good’? - Looks like a Janspeed/Cooper Conversion..

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How to tell if a head is ‘any good’? - Looks like a Janspeed/Cooper Conversion..

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I went to pick up an engine hoist at the weekend so as to move project LFF along and in the vicinity, a ‘Classic Mini cylinder head n’ was advertised for the price of a round of beers. From the pics I could tell that it had had some work done on it and as it came with a free pile of other niknaks I picked it up.

It’s a CAM4810 casting with what appear to be 31x27 inlet and exhaust valves, double springs, chamber debeaked and compared to another CAM4810 I’ve got on the bench, enlarged ports.

There are no other markings on it, and I’ve yet to strip the valves out of it, though the surfaces of them look very clean as it it has been in good running order.

Apart from cc’ing it and matching to my engine spec, are there any ways I can tell if it’s any good?

The seller knew nothing about it other than that it came in a roll cab he bought a while ago. The owner of the roll cab had emigrated to Australia twenty years or so ago and was heavily into minis.

Anywhere I can look for clues as to its usefulness?

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You can check:
Fill the chambers with petrol and check for leaks
Valve seat condition and presence of hardened seats
Valve stem/guide tolerance
Flatness of the head gasket surface
Condition of the rocker post and thermostat hole threads
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timmy201 wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:29 am You can check:
Fill the chambers with petrol and check for leaks
Valve seat condition and presence of hardened seats
Valve stem/guide tolerance
Flatness of the head gasket surface
Condition of the rocker post and thermostat hole threads
Thanks Timmy, all good stuff.

It was the performance aspect of the head that I was really thinking of. Short of checking those things you listed bolting it on and running it, I was curious to know if there were things that could be checked to see if the modifications were good or bad.
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I seem to recall a 27mm exhaust valve is right on the limit of touching a standard 998 bore but I might be wrong.
Other than that it sounds like a potentially great find
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Presume it doesn't have any marks on it ?

Photo might help, but really its down to who did the mods and how good they are.

Could start by comparing ports and seeing if the porting matches between ports, if they dont match like for like, that does not bode well.

As was modded a while ago, they might of used the yellow book as a reference, so you could try comparing the two.

Might be an ideal to cc it first though, in case is too high for you to use.
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I’ve now got the head cleaned up (thanks John) and we’ve uncovered some markings on the rear of the face which identifies this head as one of the early 90’s 998 Cooper conversion heads which I believe were produced by Janspeed.

It needs a set of guides so I’ll do that, and it’ll be a good addition to my 1098 but does anyone know what colours these were painted new? Would be good to do it justice and restore it correctly.

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I would have to double check, but pretty sure they were blue - has been about twenty years since I had a look at the engine. Only problem we had with the head in over 100k miles was the spring retaining caps pulled through early on - think they were standard caps and were not upto the job of double springs. Think you are right with Janspeed
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Thanks Gordon. John did remark that the springs were very heavy duty and took some releasing.

I suspect I’ll fit a more normal set of springs when it goes back together.
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