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Our car had a Tech Del Sumpguard to replace the ST Scottish lump of one, and it somehow got lost along the way / over the years.

You never know what may be out there when you ask folks on this forum, so just in case??? Is there one for sale out there somewhere ?

FYI it would go back on this car, so a genuine cause ;-)

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There are decent aluminium copies about
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251 ENG wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 6:41 am There are decent aluminium copies about
I've seen a couple but not for sale - do you know of a source please Simon? At the moment I'll be re-fitting the original ST one for period correctness.
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Hi Andy,
Don't mean to hijack your ad....but I am curious about that oil cooler on your car....do you still have it?
Attaching a picture of the usual type (on top) and the early version below...... as fitted to my 65 US S.
It does look like the one on your car.
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360gts wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:48 pm Hi Andy,
Don't mean to hijack your ad....but I am curious about that oil cooler on your car....do you still have it?
Attaching a picture of the usual type (on top) and the early version below...... as fitted to my 65 US S.
It does look like the one on your car.
Looks like the same Dermot. I've a few stashed away in my 'dumping' garage and keep meaning to check if the original rally one was in there. The car was running a 1275 from around 1969, as per this pic, and ran the upright type prior to that on the 1071. As my focus has been on the 1071, I've not been through the 1275 stuff - but should no doubt.
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AndyPen wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:12 pm Our car had a Tech Del Sumpguard to replace the ST Scottish lump of one, and it somehow got lost along the way / over the years.
You never know what may be out there when you ask folks on this forum, so just in case??? Is there one for sale out there somewhere ?
FYI it would go back on this car, so a genuine cause ;-)
Another hijack - at least this keeps the topic on top ;)

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MiNiKiN wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 9:33 am
AndyPen wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:12 pm Our car had a Tech Del Sumpguard to replace the ST Scottish lump of one, and it somehow got lost along the way / over the years.
You never know what may be out there when you ask folks on this forum, so just in case??? Is there one for sale out there somewhere ?
FYI it would go back on this car, so a genuine cause ;-)
Another hijack - at least this keeps the topic on top ;)

Nice Bi-Iode headlights - do you still have them?
Yes indeed, with a little help on here as only one survived a crash we had. By the time that pic had been taken the arches had been removed, but they are back on the car too.

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I think Peter Hicks had one for sale at Blyton
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251 ENG wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 4:43 pm I think Peter Hicks had one for sale at Blyton
Thanks, Peter is away at the moment but kindly got in touch Simon - fingers crossed ;-)
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The shorter/smaller oil cooler looks like the optional extra oil cooler available for the 998 Cooper. Or am I missing something in the scale Dermott/Andy? Are they not available?
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Peter Laidler wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:59 am The shorter/smaller oil cooler looks like the optional extra oil cooler available for the 998 Cooper. Or am I missing something in the scale Dermott/Andy? Are they not available?
The cooler was probably fitted in 1969 ish when the car was prepared for rallying, and almost certainly it is a period ST part like everything else on the car. I have had a quick look again but only found the larger version, but it occurs to me that it may have been damaged in our 82 crash.

Your lower one certainly looks correct Dermot. Somerford's offer looks close but has the upper fixing too.

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Fred at nippy cars does an oilcooler without tabs at the top and very nice repro pipes. Hope this might help
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I have a feeling in my bones that the BMC/BL oil cooles were made by MOCAL from Slough (?) Because they were fitted to MGB's and V8's here at Abingdon they seem to be fitted to every young lads car around these parts. Even my wife's teal blue and citrus Mini 1000's had them !
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360gts wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:48 pm Attaching a picture of the usual type (on top) and the early version below...... as fitted to my 65 US S.
It does look like the one on your car.
The bottom one in your picture looks like the regular horizontal mounted oil cooler. The top one is the larger ST one.
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Toby wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:41 pm
360gts wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:48 pm Attaching a picture of the usual type (on top) and the early version below...... as fitted to my 65 US S.
It does look like the one on your car.
The bottom one in your picture looks like the regular horizontal mounted oil cooler. The top one is the larger ST one.
Toby,
The lower one is only 7 rows....unlike the top one....11 rows. The 11 row is the typical cooler used by many suppliers.....
The 7 row looks just like the old vertical cooler. I may be wrong.....but maybe these were manufactured by a different company. Think Peter is right about the other coolers...made by Mocal.
As I mentioned...this 7 row unit was installed on my 65 US S....it has the BMC pipes and brackets....assume it was fitted by the dealer in California where the car was sold.
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I guess it depends on the way you want to count the rows. However see this topic on the forum which has a picture of a nos ST one which is the 13 row model. My nos one has the same number of rows as the one in that picture

https://mk1-forum.net/viewtopic.php?f=5 ... 3&p=299574
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251 ENG wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 4:43 pm I think Peter Hicks had one for sale at Blyton
Well thanks to the Forum and Simon and Peter, I've now got a huge smile on my face - thank you both ;-)


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That’s a great result!
Surprised to see it’s marked Competition Department instead of Special Tuning.
Has it been aqua blasted by any chance?
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Nice!
As it looks like it’s never been drilled, nevermind fitted, is it repro or NOS?
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Toby wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:19 pm That’s a great result!
Surprised to see it’s marked Competition Department instead of Special Tuning.
Has it been aqua blasted by any chance?
No its new Toby, a repro moulded from an original. Our old one had the same text on it to the best of our recollection - been chatting to a past owner about it.
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