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Hi folks, have you had any problems finding a paint supplier that can accurately produce GN37 ? I certainly have. I've seen lots of various attempts and they all look good but different. I've also seen hundreds on the web and they're all different. So what is GN37? I'm wondering if the standard has been lost?. Do we need to set a new standard? To that effect I spotted this in my local Lidl car park. As this is a modern car I expect the colour can be reproduced n times. What are your views? Am I being over the top. Comments appreciated. Cheers, Doug
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You go to a classic car show and there will be seven different shades of Almond green and sometimes as many as that on the same car :lol:
Each supplier will swear the theirs is the correct colour and everyone else has it wrong so last time I had the car scanned and mixed from that but it still took three attempts as the shade changes when cured but we got there in the end.
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I am sure that any painter will tell you that Almond Green is a nightmare to match & yes, all mixes do look different. I'm not a painter & I don't know why, but for some reason, greens are always trouble.

When my latest Almond Green car was painted, Nick took ages trying to perfect the shade. It looks absolutely fantastic, & I am thrilled with the result, but as far as being exactly the same as the original well. . . . . Who knows.

There is one Almond Green car that I have seen at local events & it's "Almond Green" is closer to Willow Green!!! Nice car, but the paint shade is horrendous.
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Yes every time I order a sample it's different to the last one I did, a lot of the almond green samples look too white, as though they are trying to make it look faded...all solvent paint colours seem to be getting less accurate. Where as the water base stuff for modern jobs is better now than it was 10years ago.
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Yep....... Although it is correct (?) Nick, it looks too green to me. Looks somewhere between mid bronze and deep bronze green. Almond Green must vie with Tartan red for difficulty in colour matching.

We used to have lots of Army minis in deep bronze green but out in the Far East, they were all mid bronze green. Nope, I didn't understand it either!

To save starting another comment, Yep, Nicks second head-on pic (further down) looks more like the real McCoy..... But I did acknowledge that coming from Nick, that it WOULD be correct
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It's absolutely impossible to judge colours through a computer screen. When Nick posted the above pic, I just knew someone would comment on the shade. The real car looks nothing like that.

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Peter Laidler wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:06 pm Yep....... Although it is correct (?) Nock, it looks too green to me. Looks somewhere between mid bronze and deep bronze green. Almond Green must vie with Tartan red for difficulty in colour matching.

We used to have lots of Army minis in deep bronze green but out in the Far East, they were all mid bronze green. Nope, I didn't understand it either!
Difficult to say looking on a screen, it's quite accurate in natural light in real life imo
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Difficult to say looking on a screen, it's quite accurate in natural light in real life imo

In mine too.
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My MK1 Almond green is real clos to Jaguars Sherwood Green
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Hi everyone,

From "Ici codes" manual :
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Mixing formula Belcron on the left
Mixing formula Hi-Build on the right

From BMC service paint scheme :
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Any of these formula could work with a painter nowadays ?
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The problem is that all the base colours have changed, so no matter what formula you use the colours are different nowadays, it's a case of mixing a 1/4 lt then tinting it by eye, then work it up to 5 or 6 lts.
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The full range of the ICI codes above are available on the main MK1 Perf Cons site. As Nick says, the problem is that the don't relate to anything available nowadays.

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Oh, and by the way, I have no idea who the long legged, fat bastard reflected in Nicks wonderful paintwork is :lol: :lol:
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hi
paint colors are a nightmare my ford laser is monza red there are at least 3formulas for that and all different the mini i plan to paint velocity red mazda list r shades all other makers have different names for it and various shades also the computer only was to slip up on 1 tint and different shade
and this makes repairs to the paint a problem so to keep it all the same make sure you have enough to respray the lot again :twisted: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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That bloke with the long legs and round body...no idea who he was :lol:
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I would like to assure some of our more nervous members that there is a degree of fairground mirror going on in that picture :lol: :lol:
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Hi folks, thank you all for your excellent comments. It appears that I'm not alone in facing this problem and it clearly is going to continue to be a problem. Returning to my original post, today's paint suppliers "should" be able to accurately reproduce a modern colour for a modern car. If we could find such a car, it might solve the problem. When I spotted that Dacia I thought that it might fill the bill but I have only a rough idea of what GN37 actually looks like. Given that photos, digital or film, displayed on different screens, do not accurately deliver colours, there is no point in showing colour samples here. If someone who has a good idea of what GN37 looks like should spot a modern car that is a close match, like the Dacia, it would be great to hear from them.
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