Has the electric car bubble burst?

[beardylonodn]

It doesn't matter who says it, the BBC (or in fact specialists interviewed by the BBC) or Darth Vader, you can't change scientific fact, Hydrogen apparently isn't going to work in the long term.

It interesting what Toyota said, they can make 8 x Hybrid cars, for every battery powered car and hence they would rather direct their resources to Hybrid vehicles, I can't find the source at this time, but it makes sense, even if Hybrid as just as loathsome as electric cars

Anyway it's all bollocks, let's just enjoy burning the fossil fuels in our minis while we can!

My brother in law works in this space, and he says Hydrogen just wont work.

Also indecently I saw a good doc on the BBC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p ... heat-pumps

Who ever believes what the BBC say , biggest liars on the telly , they said we was going into a ice age in the 70s , now they tell us we have got global warming , yes it is true , just look at how the panties are getting smaller , " proof of global warming "

[goff]

Anyway it's all bollocks, let's just enjoy burning the fossil fuels in our minis while we can!

To true beardylonodn

BBC news tonight at six oclock , interviewing a so called scientist blaming climate change for - wait for it - Yes POT HOLES , it gets better

[Spider]

Don't forget - Batteries are also dirty, very dirty. That might change down the track, but I really just can't see that. They also just don't and not likely to have in the next 100+ years going to come within a bulls roar for energy density of hydrocarbon or straight hydrogen fuels. Batteries are not future.

Maybe this is the future ?

Chinese-developed nuclear battery has a 50-year lifespan — Betavolt BV100 built with Nickel-63 isotope and diamond semiconductor material



https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-compone ... 60iRRtASD8

Totally reliable and trustworthy.

[Exminiman]

Don't forget - Batteries are also dirty, very dirty. That might change down the track, but I really just can't see that. They also just don't and not likely to have in the next 100+ years going to come within a bulls roar for energy density of hydrocarbon or straight hydrogen fuels. Batteries are not future.

Maybe this is the future ?

Chinese-developed nuclear battery has a 50-year lifespan — Betavolt BV100 built with Nickel-63 isotope and diamond semiconductor material



https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-compone ... 60iRRtASD8

Totally reliable and trustworthy.

1 gram of radioactive Nickel-63 costs around 4,000 USD

[mab01uk]

Car powered by latest Chinese Nuclear battery technology fails to achieve a 5 star rating in Euro NCAP crash test...

[Spider]

It seems things with Hydrogen are further along than I thought earlier. Japan is have a major transition towards it over the next few years;-

https://www.mfat.govt.nz/en/trade/mfat- ... mber-2023/

" What are Japan's focus areas for hydrogen ?

Hydrogen supply (hydrogen production, construction of hydrogen supply chain)
Decarbonised power generation
Fuel cells
Direct use of hydrogen (decarbonised steel, decarbonised chemicals, hydrogen-fuelled vessels)
Utilisation of hydrogen compounds (fuel ammonia, carbon recycling products) "

[Exminiman]

I think the answer to the title of the thread is YES the bubble has burst, whether this is a temporary thing or not remain to be seen, EVS are piling up in China unsold (parked in fields and waste ground) and the price of Lithium has crashed 80%.

Prepare for some very cheap EVs being dumped on the market from China - they may of spent some time in a field though

Really, HTF is this good for global warming, making cars en masse that are not wanted or needed using fossil fuel generated electric

Lithium price crash in the FT https://www.ft.com/content/0fb27a1a-d14 ... e3feecb5e5

Abandoned EVs in China https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2023 ... raveyards/

[JohnA]

Ev catches fire at the Mercedes dealers two fire engines and 25 fire extinguishers later and it's still going

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C1ptFWAr ... hiajlreg== ev catches