1969 MK2 850 Super Deluxe
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1969 MK2 850 Super Deluxe
Hello All,
First post on here, looks like a cracking forum, hope you don't mind a Mk2 interloper amongst you!
I have recently become the proud custodian of a rather special little car. Registered in Jan 1969 in Dudley (West Midlands don't ya know...) and having had only 4 previous owners in the last 52 years, it's come home to the Black Country to hopefully live a peaceful and pampered retirement with me.
With it being a 1969 model that places it in the last year of Mini Mk2 production, (running from 67 - 69) so it retains a lot of the Mk1 Mini looks, sliding front windows, external door hinges, swing mounted rear numberplate, along with some features that were on the Mk3, namely larger rear window, larger rear lights etc.
My car is an 850 Super Deluxe, meaning a whole 34BHP, but it at least had some better standard kit than the basic Mini Saloon.
The previous owners purchased it in 2012 and had the vehicle restored professionally in 2015 at eye watering cost. Having done very limited mileage since then it's pretty much how it left the restorers.
So what am i to do with it? In short the plan was absolutely nothing, but having got the car home, certain things stood out as needing doing.
I'll get to the wish list of what's needed in a moment, in the meantime here's some pics of it as it arrived.
Now at home, the other half loves it!
The plans.....
Looking at the paint, it's obviously had a complete repaint inside and out, but was suffering with a number of swirled panels, and looked a little jaded in places.
Full wash and decontamintaion saw it back to bare bones, I then clayed the car with Bilt Hamber Auto Clay medium which removed very little.
I quickly established that the paint was rock hard, imaging 2000's VAG paint plus 20% so i decided to correct the paint using initially the Rotary and 3M Fast Cut Plus, then switching to the DA with Lake country orange pad, followed by the Megs DA correction system. I had to use the 3" shine mate DA for the tighter areas as despite being a small car, these Mini's are fiddly!!
Initial results were good. I'm not looking for a glass smooth mirror finish, more a respectable depth of shine, with limited defects. Bearing in mind the finish on these cars when new wasn't the greatest!
I continued round the car, and decided to remove the rear badging as they had reused the 52 yr old original badges and they have aged badly. I also removed the rear number plate swinging hanger, and have sent that off to be blasted and powder coated. Rear bumper also came off and it was much easier then to get the rear paintwork corrected as well.
Correct supplying dealer rear window sticker sourced and fitted..
The rear bumper was showing signs of pitting and was missing the overriders, so i have ordered new front and rear bumpers, new badges, set of overriders and some correct font number plates from Framptons.
I'll have more pictures soon.
Cheers
Matt
First post on here, looks like a cracking forum, hope you don't mind a Mk2 interloper amongst you!
I have recently become the proud custodian of a rather special little car. Registered in Jan 1969 in Dudley (West Midlands don't ya know...) and having had only 4 previous owners in the last 52 years, it's come home to the Black Country to hopefully live a peaceful and pampered retirement with me.
With it being a 1969 model that places it in the last year of Mini Mk2 production, (running from 67 - 69) so it retains a lot of the Mk1 Mini looks, sliding front windows, external door hinges, swing mounted rear numberplate, along with some features that were on the Mk3, namely larger rear window, larger rear lights etc.
My car is an 850 Super Deluxe, meaning a whole 34BHP, but it at least had some better standard kit than the basic Mini Saloon.
The previous owners purchased it in 2012 and had the vehicle restored professionally in 2015 at eye watering cost. Having done very limited mileage since then it's pretty much how it left the restorers.
So what am i to do with it? In short the plan was absolutely nothing, but having got the car home, certain things stood out as needing doing.
I'll get to the wish list of what's needed in a moment, in the meantime here's some pics of it as it arrived.
Now at home, the other half loves it!
The plans.....
Looking at the paint, it's obviously had a complete repaint inside and out, but was suffering with a number of swirled panels, and looked a little jaded in places.
Full wash and decontamintaion saw it back to bare bones, I then clayed the car with Bilt Hamber Auto Clay medium which removed very little.
I quickly established that the paint was rock hard, imaging 2000's VAG paint plus 20% so i decided to correct the paint using initially the Rotary and 3M Fast Cut Plus, then switching to the DA with Lake country orange pad, followed by the Megs DA correction system. I had to use the 3" shine mate DA for the tighter areas as despite being a small car, these Mini's are fiddly!!
Initial results were good. I'm not looking for a glass smooth mirror finish, more a respectable depth of shine, with limited defects. Bearing in mind the finish on these cars when new wasn't the greatest!
I continued round the car, and decided to remove the rear badging as they had reused the 52 yr old original badges and they have aged badly. I also removed the rear number plate swinging hanger, and have sent that off to be blasted and powder coated. Rear bumper also came off and it was much easier then to get the rear paintwork corrected as well.
Correct supplying dealer rear window sticker sourced and fitted..
The rear bumper was showing signs of pitting and was missing the overriders, so i have ordered new front and rear bumpers, new badges, set of overriders and some correct font number plates from Framptons.
I'll have more pictures soon.
Cheers
Matt
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Re: 1969 MK2 850 Gentle Enhancement Project
Number plates arrived from Framptons, the correct raised 3d plastic letters / numbers rivited onto the black aluminium backing.
Much happier with them as i've never been a fan of the pressed aluminium plates and the white letters/numbers are in period.
Stripped the front bumper off, 3 x 10mm bolts, literally a one minute job.
Cleaned all of the front panel, grille will be coming off next to get behind it to clean.
I did jack the car up, put a stand under and pulled the osf wheel off to see into the arches. They had been painted and clearcoated when the shell was painted but then brown Waxoyl had been sloshed about. While i appreciate the rust proofing natures of said Waxoyl, ive decided to clean it off with AS Tardis, clean the paintwork then re-coat the vulnerable areas with Bilt Hamber products, namely the Dynax UC clear, and then Dynax S50 for the cavities etc.
Quick before and during - this was only 5 mins work so is nowhere near complete!
The whole floorpan is like this so i've got some nice evenings ahead of me!
More soon
Matt
Much happier with them as i've never been a fan of the pressed aluminium plates and the white letters/numbers are in period.
Stripped the front bumper off, 3 x 10mm bolts, literally a one minute job.
Cleaned all of the front panel, grille will be coming off next to get behind it to clean.
I did jack the car up, put a stand under and pulled the osf wheel off to see into the arches. They had been painted and clearcoated when the shell was painted but then brown Waxoyl had been sloshed about. While i appreciate the rust proofing natures of said Waxoyl, ive decided to clean it off with AS Tardis, clean the paintwork then re-coat the vulnerable areas with Bilt Hamber products, namely the Dynax UC clear, and then Dynax S50 for the cavities etc.
Quick before and during - this was only 5 mins work so is nowhere near complete!
The whole floorpan is like this so i've got some nice evenings ahead of me!
More soon
Matt
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Re: 1969 MK2 850 Gentle Enhancement Project
Another hour or so on the car last night. The new bumpers came yesterday so i wasted no time in getting them bolted back to the car.
At some point since the resto in 2015 (when it was featured in a Mini magazine) it had lost it's front and rear bumper over riders and these were a standard fitment on the Super Deluxe to help differentiate from the standard Mini saloon, so i bought a new set from Mini Sport and fitted those at the same time.
I even splashed out on a 32mm diameter chrome tailpipe to finish the exhaust off. Interesting fact number 458, the Mini exhaust is the same diameter as a Morris Minor....:tumbleweed:
I have more goodies arriving today / tomorrow so i'll update as I go
At some point since the resto in 2015 (when it was featured in a Mini magazine) it had lost it's front and rear bumper over riders and these were a standard fitment on the Super Deluxe to help differentiate from the standard Mini saloon, so i bought a new set from Mini Sport and fitted those at the same time.
I even splashed out on a 32mm diameter chrome tailpipe to finish the exhaust off. Interesting fact number 458, the Mini exhaust is the same diameter as a Morris Minor....:tumbleweed:
I have more goodies arriving today / tomorrow so i'll update as I go
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Re: 1969 MK2 850 Gentle Enhancement Project
Amazing that people still have New Old Stock (NOS) items for these cars after all these years, i guess the modern Auto Jumble is the electronic interweb version these days, anyhow, i found someone selling an original unused "850" badge for the bootlid.
New & old..
Not 100% perfect but a significant improvement and plenty good enough for the old girl.
Neatly popped into place..
It's the little things. So i'm told.
New & old..
Not 100% perfect but a significant improvement and plenty good enough for the old girl.
Neatly popped into place..
It's the little things. So i'm told.
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Re: 1969 MK2 850 Gentle Enhancement Project
I collected the powdercoated rear numberplate plinth/hanger from my local powder people on Saturday morning. Went for a gloss finish which i suspect may not have been BMC/BL oe spec as i think it was dusted in a flat black/matt black from new, but i like shiny....
Got it back home, fitted two M6 Riv-nuts into it to hold the plate in the OE positions, then fitted the Frampton number plate.
I stripped and cleaned the rear number plate holder, fitted new Lucas OE bulbs as the old ones were well past it...
Cleaned up the chrome with the trusty Peek metal polish, and the glass with some glass cleaner in and out
And here is the plate set up fitted to the car, I'm made up with how it is all coming together...
One thing you can't see in the pics is the rubber buffers under the numberplate to prevent it banging into the boot lid.
The ones on the left is what a "Pro" restoration gets you - trust me they billed for the replacement of these, and on the right is the OE style from Somerford Mini Spares, litterally pennies each...:wall:
Also in the delivery box from Somerford was the rear boot lid model badge infil. Still available from them new, on the shelf, after 50 + years. Dusty mind you but i can forgive that.
Old original badge..
And new one..
The chrome surround is on its way, also on the shelf at Somerford. Reason it's not here now is i ordered the wrong surround...
They also supplied a brand new chrome bezel for the front Austin bonnet badge.
Old & New together..
Which when fitted with the Austin circular badge looks like this...
Now the only badge i cannot find new is that circular Austin badge from the bonnet, simply not available new or repro anywhere. There is one for sale in Australia but i refuse to pay £300 for one. So i'm on the hunt for a better used one as the red colours in mine are faded. One will turn up somewhere, prob an Autojumble etc.
More soon. Probably
Got it back home, fitted two M6 Riv-nuts into it to hold the plate in the OE positions, then fitted the Frampton number plate.
I stripped and cleaned the rear number plate holder, fitted new Lucas OE bulbs as the old ones were well past it...
Cleaned up the chrome with the trusty Peek metal polish, and the glass with some glass cleaner in and out
And here is the plate set up fitted to the car, I'm made up with how it is all coming together...
One thing you can't see in the pics is the rubber buffers under the numberplate to prevent it banging into the boot lid.
The ones on the left is what a "Pro" restoration gets you - trust me they billed for the replacement of these, and on the right is the OE style from Somerford Mini Spares, litterally pennies each...:wall:
Also in the delivery box from Somerford was the rear boot lid model badge infil. Still available from them new, on the shelf, after 50 + years. Dusty mind you but i can forgive that.
Old original badge..
And new one..
The chrome surround is on its way, also on the shelf at Somerford. Reason it's not here now is i ordered the wrong surround...
They also supplied a brand new chrome bezel for the front Austin bonnet badge.
Old & New together..
Which when fitted with the Austin circular badge looks like this...
Now the only badge i cannot find new is that circular Austin badge from the bonnet, simply not available new or repro anywhere. There is one for sale in Australia but i refuse to pay £300 for one. So i'm on the hunt for a better used one as the red colours in mine are faded. One will turn up somewhere, prob an Autojumble etc.
More soon. Probably
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Re: 1969 MK2 850 Gentle Enhancement Project
The drivers door mirror had got a crack in the glass, not unusual and something i thought could be replaced cheaply. What i didn't realise it that it was almost as cheap to buy a replacement complete mirror instead of just the glass. Something that my brain decides as a "no brainer".
Old mirror, with cracked glass and pitting round the base..
New "Tex" mirror, exactly the same as the old one, but new obviously!
Getting there slowly. Of course this now means that i'll have to order a passenger mirror as there is pitting on the base of that as well
Old mirror, with cracked glass and pitting round the base..
New "Tex" mirror, exactly the same as the old one, but new obviously!
Getting there slowly. Of course this now means that i'll have to order a passenger mirror as there is pitting on the base of that as well
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Re: 1969 MK2 850 Gentle Enhancement Project
Postman delivered the new rear badge chrome bezel/surround so that was speedily fitted at lunchtime. Again I'm amazed that these parts are still around after all these years, glad though!
That's the bootlid finished now.
I'm turning my attention to the front end tonight, i need to get the front number plate plinth solidly mounted then i can get the new number plate mounted to that, plus I want to fit my late 60's/early 70's AA Grill badge
That's the bootlid finished now.
I'm turning my attention to the front end tonight, i need to get the front number plate plinth solidly mounted then i can get the new number plate mounted to that, plus I want to fit my late 60's/early 70's AA Grill badge
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Re: 1969 MK2 850 Gentle Enhancement Project
Had a couple of hours tinkering in the garage last night, managed to get the front number plate support fitted and the plate fitted to that using rivnuts and m6 plastic screws, and fitted my later 1970's AA Badge and repro AA Relay stickers.
Next jobs will be under the bonnet, get a plan for getting the engine up to minty fresh standard, in fairness i may well pull the engine/box out over the winter and do it properly, not that it's bad now, just could be better...
Cheers
Matt
Next jobs will be under the bonnet, get a plan for getting the engine up to minty fresh standard, in fairness i may well pull the engine/box out over the winter and do it properly, not that it's bad now, just could be better...
Cheers
Matt
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Re: 1969 MK2 850 Gentle Enhancement Project
Great to see it being so carefully mollycoddled
From the pics the engine looks fab already??
From the pics the engine looks fab already??
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SHOWROOM NEW well done.
Kees.
Kees.
DOWNTON Mini is what I like a lot.
Collecting 60th wooden steeringwheels.
Collecting 60th wooden steeringwheels.
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Thanks, I'm being very fussy i know but the engine needs painting properly, the fixings need attention and certain things like the Chassis Number & Commission number plate need renewing.
Main thing is i'm getting a good summers use out of it first, a number of shows are booked already and i'm looking forward to seeing the other beautiful cars on here in the flesh.
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Re: 1969 MK2 850 Gentle Enhancement Project
What a beautiful little Mk2
Quite a rare model now. A restoration like that would indeed have cost a great deal of time and money. It looks as if it was well executed and the time you've spent on it since has brought it back up to a very good standard. I'm a bit of a fan of the Mk2 and have owned one of the first 1967 850s, a 998 Cooper and a 1275S all in Mk2 form in the past.
Quite a rare model now. A restoration like that would indeed have cost a great deal of time and money. It looks as if it was well executed and the time you've spent on it since has brought it back up to a very good standard. I'm a bit of a fan of the Mk2 and have owned one of the first 1967 850s, a 998 Cooper and a 1275S all in Mk2 form in the past.
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Re: 1969 MK2 850 Gentle Enhancement Project
What a beautiful little car!
Just how I like to see them.
Welcome to the forum, I hope you find it useful & above all fun.
M
Just how I like to see them.
Welcome to the forum, I hope you find it useful & above all fun.
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Re: 1969 MK2 850 Gentle Enhancement Project
Looks a great buy - and whatever camera you are using is taking some great photos! Top detail!
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Re: 1969 MK2 850 Gentle Enhancement Project
Looks lovely - the number plate lamp should be black not chrome tho as I remember.
Mines a mk2 thou
Mines a mk2 thou
I've got a 69 Mini with a 1046, Cooper Head and a four on the floor.
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Re: 1969 MK2 850 Gentle Enhancement Project
Good to see a nice 850, seem to be rarer than Cooper Ss these days .....