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Internal Tank Mini Traveller floor question

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1961 Internal Tank Mini Traveller Restoration:
:?: In the photo attached on the RHS only of the tunnel on the extended rear floor section there is a small tunnel feature formed into the metal leading to the underside of the main exhaust tunnel. (near the brown leaf!) Obviously put there for a reason by the factory, anyone know what it is there for?
(This feature has also been confirmed on another early 1960 Traveller on the Countryman/Traveller Register but the owner of that one also has no idea what it is for).

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I had the same on my Woody and on an associates Woody that I'm currently working on.
The extra 4 inch? section was tacked onto a standard Mini floorpan and the only reason I can think of as to why the tacked on section has these preformed pressings is to stiffen up said section.
The currently available Van, Pick Up and Woody replacement floorpans are flat so most of the original pressed tacked on section is usually lost during replacement / restoration.
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Curiously I noticed exactly the same when I was under my Traveller on Tuesday night (been spending a bit of time down there lately). I couldn't work out what its purpose was either, it looks like it has been added for stiffening but I can't see why you need to stiffen the floor just there.

I found it interesting that the floor is just a standard sedan floor that has been extended. The later estates and vans had a custom designed longer floor. When production of vans started in Australia in about 1963 or '64, they used a standard Australian pressed sedan floor (and the whole front end) with a floor extension similar to the early UK ones. The rest of the van specific panels (sides, door and roof) came from the UK.

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The UK built vans and pickups also had the floor extension.

The extra ridge in the extension panel may be to help it hold its shape in transit and during welding.

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mascher wrote:The UK built vans and pickups also had the floor extension.
All of them, or just the early ones? I'm worried that watto, the esteemed editor of "The Mini Experience" may have made a mistake.

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My 65/6 Traveller has the welded extension.

Not sure I understand this "tunnel" structure?? Are you referring to the small ridge running parallel to and about an inch behind the floor join??

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Tim wrote:
mascher wrote:The UK built vans and pickups also had the floor extension.
All of them, or just the early ones? I'm worried that watto, the esteemed editor of "The Mini Experience" may have made a mistake.

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IAIN wrote: :shock: :shock: :D Watto won't be wrong!
Hmm, I think he is. In his article about Australian built vans, he goes to some length describing how the Australian factory thought that they were clever extending the sedan floor. Luckily he's put the article online:
Although the van’s wheelbase was 10cm longer than the saloon, engineers at Zetland devised a clever extension to lengthen the standard saloon floorpan. This meant that only the panels and parts from the B-pillar back, and above the floorpan, needed to be imported from the UK. These were the roof, sides, cargo floor, outer sills, rear beaver panel, rear doors and hinges, roof vent, taillights, fuel filler recess, fuel tank and numerous smaller items. The rest of the van, including all front panels, grille, bonnet, floorpan, seats, trim, windows and the doors would be made locally and in common with the Morris 850 saloon.

Former Product Development Manager Peter Davis, who was responsible for drawing up the Knock Down Allocation Schedules (lists of parts needed for CKD) said that the earliest Vans assembled in Australia used complete bodies brought from the UK, and that it was not until early 1965, that the Australian floorpans were used. Peter Davis recalls a later trip to the UK; “I went to Longbridge, to Cowley, and Castle Bromwich – where they were building the Mini vans and utes, and that’s where I told them about the floors. They asked me why we didn’t order the floors and I said because we use the saloon floor. They said it couldn’t be done because they were a different length, and I told them we made up and fitted these extensions. They said they had completely re-tooled for the van, from the grille to the back doors. You can imagine the extra cost in doing that.”
Perhaps Peter Davis' memory has faded a little over time.

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Re: Internal Tank Mini Traveller floor question

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the 14A9023 van extension part can still be got from heritage - as far as im aware all uk made van/estate etc used a saloon floor with this cheekily welded on the back!
please note, these are my own, individual sales, nothing whatsoever to do with my employer, minispares
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