1964 Traveller rebuild

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Re: 1964 Traveller rebuild

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rich@minispares.com wrote: there is a real good (if long) thread on retro rides ......
Do you have a link please?

Sounds interesting. :)
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http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/ ... nfestation

it drags on a bit, but is quite funny

1) when he actually goes to south Africa to buy a couple of spares cars, and the bloke has sold them!


ditto Australia...... :lol:
should you wish, you can contact me on rich@minispares.com

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I guess I can't complain about driving an hour to find the car sold!
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rich@minispares.com wrote:http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/ ... nfestation

it drags on a bit, but is quite funny

1) when he actually goes to south Africa to buy a couple of spares cars, and the bloke has sold them!


ditto Australia...... :lol:
I've been following that one too. Haven't seen the car for many posts though, and it's a real mystery what's actually happening in the last couple of pages... :lol:
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Just read the first few pages - I have to stop or else my car will never get done!

His bead roller is awesome. Mine is made in China and isn't nearly as nice (or stiff).
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The left door is about done:
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Just need to install the lower drain tubes and install the skin but on to the right door first. Normally when I have to make a left and a right part, whichever one I do first seems to go better (I've made two left parts before :oops: ). This time around the second one is going much smoother.
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Re: 1964 Traveller rebuild

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That inner top section repair panel is just brilliant.
I could rescue / restore at least another 3 doors I have that would otherwise be cut up.
Excellent work. 8-)
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InimiaD wrote:That inner top section repair panel is just brilliant.
I could rescue / restore at least another 3 doors I have that would otherwise be cut up.
Excellent work. 8-)
A friend of mine got that repair section from M Machine.I too have a couple of doors that need it.
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I need to see if M-Machine will ship to the US. It's unfortunate their website does not have online ordering.
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M-Machine have been exporting all over the world for 20+ years. Sending an order to the States is easy.

They don't have online ordering as the range of stock they carry and variations available make it highly likely that the customer would select the wrong part. Much easier to take to Doreen "face to face".

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I tried contacting them via their site and unfortunately they did not respond to my email. I do not have international calling on my phone so before setting that up I decided to try making the parts - so the progress at glacial speed continues (and the Sprite that shares the garage with the Mini also occasionally becomes a distraction!)

Throughout its life the side skins were repaired several times. Reusing them would require quite a bit of filler. There were also a few very wavy areas where someone filled holes with weld and the heat distorted the panel. In the end I decided to not keep them - off to Mini Spares for some replacements!
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After I pulled the left skin I found a bunch of rust and other general nastiness - more cutting, fabbing, and replacing. The window rails were completely unusable. They had apparently rusted years before and someone put a scab patch over the rust, covered it with filler, and slapped on a coat of paint.
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Fortunately InimiaD has been there already so his build provided quite a bit of insight as to what the car should look like. I'm sure some of this will look familiar. :)

I formed the angles for the window channel from 20 gauge sheet metal. The inner was fairly easy since it did not have any special features - the outer is a different story due to the stamping. I wanted to have the side skin in place before dealing with the stamping part.
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During the fitting process I also found that the skin and the wheel arch did not line up if the other seams were aligned (flange on skin sat too low). I'm not sure whether it was due to previous repair work, modern reproduction part tolerances, or a combination but in the end I decided to also replace the rusty and patched together wheel arch - alignment issues corrected!
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Now for the real fun - the outer Z angle. Bending the sheet metal was not difficult but figuring out how to create the indentations and making them identical is another story. After a bit of head scratching and a little help I had an idea.

After a little time on the mill and some clean up with the flap disk, things were starting to shape up....
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The angle in the die was in hopes of minimizing the bulge created at the base of the indentation (the bottom of the groove is horizontal). It helped some but I think the angle probably should have been more so the faces were 45 degrees from the vertical and the corner was pressed directly into the die.
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After a little hammer and dolly work, things cleaned up nicely. I'll call it a success considering its my first shot at stamping.
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Re: 1964 Traveller rebuild

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Wow. Impressive work.
Goes to show that anything is possible with a little thought.
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Thanks.

I still have a few odds and ends to finish on the left side but I'm guessing the right side will require less head scratching.

Need to figure out whether to make an entirely new support for the seat back or try to repair and reuse the one that is still attached to the old fender.
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I was looking through photos the other day and realized I haven't touched the car for almost two months - busy summer! Its time to get back at it.

Since last update I made new rear seat supports. The old ones had a few cracks and repairs and were not in great shape. After a little bending and hammering the new ones started taking shape.
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Finally the moment of truth; I bolted in the rear seat, positioned everything, and it fit with minimal tweaking. Its always nice when a plan works!
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That just about wraps up the left side. Now to start work on the right side....
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Re: 1964 Traveller rebuild

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Great work!
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Long time no update!

A few years ago I accidentally damaged the then finished rear valence. I initially tried pulling it out but it was too dented. Ultimately I decided to cut it out and replace it while I was replacing the rear sides.

After figuring out what holes I needed and which one I did not, I started patching. After some welding and grinding, everything was ready for install.
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But first the right side also needed fitting. It went a little quicker than the left side since I previously made two of everything.
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One lesson I regret not learning earlier - the outer rear arches are nice but you'll spend an afternoon removing spot welds on each arch. I think it would have been more cost and time effective to get the entire assembly.
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AMT92484, you are a craftsman beyond words. It's inspirational......
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Re: 1964 Traveller rebuild

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Lovely work as always.

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Re: 1964 Traveller rebuild

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Thanks for the update! Keep it up and you may inspire me to start on mine!
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