phil82 wrote:haven't found any cracks on mine but according to the guy I bought them from they weren't raced a lot in the late 60s/70s until he stored them dry for many years.
Well besides going to the shops or sprinting both Arden as well as the Weslake could be used for App K racing. But I only know Astro who used to race an Arden and tried to do so with a repro Weslake in french App K hillclimbs.
Somehow both aren't really popular in terms of App K racing but besides the "group 1" clubman GTs there aren't any post 65 App K Minis at least I know of. What's the reason of that?
I was talking about the UK really, apart from Mod Prods there's feck all you can use them on. There's sooo much emphasis on pre '66 here, which in theory keeps the costs down. Yeah right!
I've touched the heads. In my book they are FAAAAR better than the 60ies ones. We're racing them in FIA gp2 pre 1971. The biggest racing class in Scandinavia. Bigger grids than pre 65.
phil82 wrote:haven't found any cracks on mine but according to the guy I bought them from they weren't raced a lot in the late 60s/70s until he stored them dry for many years.
Well besides going to the shops or sprinting both Arden as well as the Weslake could be used for App K racing. But I only know Astro who used to race an Arden and tried to do so with a repro Weslake in french App K hillclimbs.
Somehow both aren't really popular in terms of App K racing but besides the "group 1" clubman GTs there aren't any post 65 App K Minis at least I know of. What's the reason of that?
I was talking about the UK really, apart from Mod Prods there's feck all you can use them on. There's sooo much emphasis on pre '66 here, which in theory keeps the costs down. Yeah right!
The FIA Approve they are talking about in the advert is for Group 2
i know the head is approved for gp 2 both for cooper s and clubman gt.
I was basically wondering why besides pre66 Cooper S and the late gp 1 clubman GT there are no / nearly no other historic race minis in the UK or here in Germany.
Further up someone mentioned post 65 is App J - aren't you confusing the App with the periods? As far as I know everything related to historic if it's FIA racing is App K and everything "up to date" is App J. Nevertheless the App revers to the old versions of the App J.
phil82 wrote:
I was basically wondering why besides pre66 Cooper S and the late gp 1 clubman GT there are no / nearly no other historic race minis in the UK or here in Germany.
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I think that the 'problem' in the uk is that the standard 'appendix k' 1293 'set' is just so well established and competitive. plus there is so much that you can race a five port in now, from the rarified masters to the more accommodating hscc.
id love to see 8 ports duking out, but they would probably start to resemble special saloons and it just becomes the normal arms race as people would want slicks etc - it will be interesting to see how many come out in the new mini seven 'mental class' as that is restricted a mini block with the head free
id love to see 8 ports duking out, but they would probably start to resemble special saloons and it just becomes the normal arms race as people would want slicks etc - it will be interesting to see how many come out in the new mini seven 'mental class' as that is restricted a mini block with the head free
It'd be great to see some post '66 historics in the UK, ie to Gp5 regs, even if it was once a year at Goodwood MM. They weren't that special (even had to carry a spare wheel!) and it'd mean we get to see Mk1 Escorts, Porkers and Mk2 Minis! Slightly bored of seeing pre 66 grids dominated by a sea of Mk1 Lotus Cortinas.
phil82 wrote:haven't found any cracks on mine but according to the guy I bought them from they weren't raced a lot in the late 60s/70s until he stored them dry for many years.
Well besides going to the shops or sprinting both Arden as well as the Weslake could be used for App K racing. But I only know Astro who used to race an Arden and tried to do so with a repro Weslake in french App K hillclimbs.
Somehow both aren't really popular in terms of App K racing but besides the "group 1" clubman GTs there aren't any post 65 App K Minis at least I know of. What's the reason of that?
I was talking about the UK really, apart from Mod Prods there's feck all you can use them on. There's sooo much emphasis on pre '66 here, which in theory keeps the costs down. Yeah right!
The FIA Approve they are talking about in the advert is for Group 2
"The head is approved for Group 2.""
Their words
Totally confused. The FIA approve the head for Gp2 when it was made under Gp5. While back in the period they DQd the works minis on the Monte for carb irregularities. Btw this a later year after the lights issue and not the same event.
GeorgeA wrote:
The FIA Approve they are talking about in the advert is for Group 2
"The head is approved for Group 2.""
Their words
Totally confused. The FIA approve the head for Gp2 when it was made under Gp5. While back in the period they DQd the works minis on the Monte for carb irregularities. Btw this a later year after the lights issue and not the same event.
I think it's the difference between UK and European regs, we reverted to Gp2 in 1970.
Vegard in what way are they superior over the 60s version only to make a comparison without actually road testing /race testing them .valves intake ports ex ports casting methods cooling are they better ? .
Still not really sure how many people have shown interest in the Alloy castings, Roger has had some great results with them though. I would like to hear more about the cast iron head Vegard as the year unfolds, hopefully the initial problems they had have been sorted out.
I had 12 people interested in the heads but as mentioned 25 was the magic number for production, not sure how many people Roger will have in the USA wanting one either.
All of the previous heads that were made by Roger are still in service with no reliability issues at all.
Vegard wrote:I've touched the heads. In my book they are FAAAAR better than the 60ies ones. We're racing them in FIA gp2 pre 1971. The biggest racing class in Scandinavia. Bigger grids than pre 65
Ive only just seen this.. You've the touched heads? That's exciting, how was it for you? Did you need a smoke afterwards?
As everyone knows I have had my problems with Dean Daniels of Weslake Heritage over the years.
I do however understand he has now "come good" & has a head that is available (on some sort of time scale) & apparently works.
Personally I won't be buying one, but I hope that anyone who does, receives what they pay for & get the service they expect.
I doubt this will be of any great consolation to "Astro's" family though, just one disappointed customer, who died before he received what he paid for!
GeorgeA wrote:
The FIA Approve they are talking about in the advert is for Group 2
"The head is approved for Group 2.""
Their words
Totally confused. The FIA approve the head for Gp2 when it was made under Gp5. While back in the period they DQd the works minis on the Monte for carb irregularities. Btw this a later year after the lights issue and not the same event.
I think it's the difference between UK and European regs, we reverted to Gp2 in 1970.
I just sent them a email to see what this FIA Approved they claimed was all about and """The head is approved for Group 2."" thats what got back
or sprinting both Arden as well as the Weslake could be used for App K racing. But I only know Astro who used to race an Arden and tried to do so with a repro Weslake in french App K hillclimbs.
