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1964 Rust project

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 12:33 pm
by Frogeye61
I've actually been working on this thing for a while, since August 2016. It's been on the other Mini forum but I figured that the Mk1 crowd needs to see this too.
It started when the son (Tim) of a guy (Peter) at my office bought this very rusted car with a "new inspection" out of Jylland (about 200 km from Copenhagen where we live). He drove the car for a year or more but rust was a very big problem. After making arrangements with me, because I have several old British cars, the two stripped the Mini down and brought me the shell.

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Re: 1964 Rust project

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 12:49 pm
by Frogeye61
A few pics of the shell when it arrived at my backyard garage.
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I suppose you get the idea of what needs replacing here.
Normally one would just rebody, but a Mk1 body isn't easy to obtain for reasonable price, and we didn't want to go with a later body. So the decision to rebuild was made.

Re: 1964 Rust project

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 1:45 pm
by Frogeye61
On 14 November a lot of stuff came from M-machine including things like these.

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Re: 1964 Rust project

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 2:22 pm
by Frogeye61
The first thing was to brace the body inside. We hoped it would be good enough to keep everything in line.
The front wing was about to fall off so I hacked it off just to see how bad everything was behind the A panel.
The sunroof necessitated that we change the roof panel also.

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Re: 1964 Rust project

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 2:30 pm
by Frogeye61
By the end of November we had gotten the main floor removed.

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Re: 1964 Rust project

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 2:55 pm
by mk1
Good luck with what looks like a major project. I look forward to following your progress.

Re: 1964 Rust project

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 7:57 pm
by 2311Jethro
I suddenly feel a lot less daunted by my project! Have fun, it looks like you will be building a real car from just the shadow of the old one. Good stuff.

Re: 1964 Rust project

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 8:27 am
by Frogeye61
The front floor / foot panel was covered on both sides with an external plate to hold in the rust. This maybe to show the inspection man that there wasn't any rust on the outside. :)

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Additionally, the seat belts were mounted to the bins with WOOD. :roll:

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Re: 1964 Rust project

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 8:42 am
by Frogeye61
Peter, his son Tim, and I work generally on this "vehicle" every Tuesday evening after work starting around 17:30 until around 22:00. Peter and I are very enthusiastic while Tim, who is also very interested in doing the project would also like to learn to weld. This is certainly a good place to start :)

Around early December we positioned the main floor with brackets, though not sure of the exact placement due to the new boot floor not being in place. None of the fixed, known positioning points are available except the bottom of the seat back. The rear seat back will be kept and repaired. This might seem odd, but we needed some way to position the boot floor.

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Braces were added to hold the stiffener frame to the main floor. The rest of the body at this point is held up only by these struts.

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Re: 1964 Rust project

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 9:45 am
by Frogeye61
Just before Christmas we had a rather productive day working on the boot floor.
First, off with the rear fenders. (wings for you Brit chaps)

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The boot floor is still held by the back panel and seat back.

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Once those are cut free the entire boot floor and inner fenders comes out as one unit.

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The shell seems a bit empty at the back

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The new floor and inner fenders pretty much fit into place with only the seat back to position it. This isn't enough so everything is left to "float" until fixed points can be obtained.

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Re: 1964 Rust project

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 10:36 am
by Frogeye61
The first workday after Christmas Peter was not available so I worked on my own Mini, straightening the A post left over from it's field racer background. The following workdays were used to do the rear panel...

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and test fit of the rear fenders.

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Re: 1964 Rust project

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 12:42 pm
by Frogeye61
Around the rear side windows is a lovely mess of rust. Since this part is not available from M-machine, I just welded all the holes using small pieces of plate where necessary. This also includes the window mounting flange. The replacement fender doesn't contain this flange so a suitable base is maintained to weld the fender to.

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The rear fenders are fitted by careful trimming to butt-weld directly to the existing mounting points.

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Peter wasn't quite as accurate with the angle grinder, but it worked just fine.

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The other side was also given this procedure and by the end of January the back of the exterior sheet metal was nearly ready.

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Re: 1964 Rust project

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 8:41 pm
by Andrew1967
Bloody hell, that is one massive project. I thought it looked 'reasonable' in the first few pics as well.

Still, this is a really interesting thread as I may (with luck :? ) be embarking on a similar project later in the year.

Looking forward to seeing more developments here :)

Re: 1964 Rust project

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 9:37 am
by Frogeye61
Thanks, Remember that this is a consolidation of a build I have been working on since August. It isn't really much further along yet, well maybe a bit.

Re: 1964 Rust project

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 9:57 am
by Frogeye61
Fitting up the rear panels: Rear panel placed as it should be along with fenders and roof as a test fit.

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Since I don't yet have the spot welder, the rear panel is pulled off to drill for plug welds.

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Then all re-aligned.

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Then a whole mass of plug welds

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Welding the corners

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And then tacking the fender front edge to the original fender edge

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Re: 1964 Rust project

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 10:15 am
by Frogeye61
I saw these pictures on a forum somewhere:

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And then I passed by the trash trailer:

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So I gathered the other pieces:

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and I made this: I know it's a complete waste of time while I have all the other projects going, but I just had to.
Don't get the wrong idea that I cut a perfectly good Mk1 bonnet in half. It was completely trashed with rust and a big bend right in the middle, covered with no less than a cm of plastic padding.

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I may however use that bumper mount strip for my own Mk1

Re: 1964 Rust project

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 10:22 am
by rolesyboy
With luck???? :lol:
Andrew1967 wrote:Bloody hell, that is one massive project. I thought it looked 'reasonable' in the first few pics as well.

Still, this is a really interesting thread as I may (with luck :? ) be embarking on a similar project later in the year.

Looking forward to seeing more developments here :)

Re: 1964 Rust project

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 10:26 am
by Frogeye61
About this time Tim got to remove spot welds from the windshield frame

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And Peter got to cut the top frame. Holes in the roof are for better access

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Then off with the frame

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Re: 1964 Rust project

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 11:57 am
by Frogeye61
The rear fenders are finished welding as everything seemed to fit just right.

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Spot welds around the rear inner fenders

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The firewall is then cleaned up and the sides of the top dash piece.

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Welding is needed where someone put a fuse box through the firewall and hacked the rotisserie opening

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The edge of both A posts were rotten so re-establishing the edge at the exact same dimensions as original.

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On 22 March we took a short (ahem) trip to see Georg Mikkelsen of ÅKM Racing. We bought a 1275 A+ engine and box for my own 64 Mini, as well as Cooper S disk brake kit, and a double skin boot lid in perfect condition. The engine was a gift from Peter as he is using my garage.

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Gerog is known for designing this:

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Re: 1964 Rust project

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 1:28 pm
by Frogeye61
Inside the windshield frame, A posts, and the top of the firewall which would be behind the scuttle panel were painted with epoxy primer. Shame the factory didn't think of this.

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I also welded the fuse box hole and fixed the rotisserie hole edges

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Finishing the weld comes later