998 Cooper Engine & Gearbox - Complete

[DFH8C]

I have for sale what I believe to be a complete 998 Cooper engine Including, 22g68 Gearbox with remote and gearstick (including the rear body mount) 12g295 cylinder head and Twin 1 1/4” SU Carbs including the air box with correct tags on the float bowls (AUD104)
All mounted on a dry MK1 front Subframe

It was removed from a car we broke and scrapped many years ago (which was a 65 cooper) .
Everything appears to be correct. Twin Carbs, remote change, 295 head etc. But doesn’t have D top pistons. (I’m guessing it was rebuilt without them).
The engine turns over and ran when removed. Although I seem to remember it jumping out of gear.

Please study the pictures and I’ll happily get more if required.
I don’t want this to turn into a debate wether it’s a cooper engine or not.. make your own minds up. But it definitely came out of one and I’m 99% sure it is (albeit with the wrong pistons.
I have put a borescope down the plug holes so can send those pictures if anyone is keen.

No idea what to ask for it so I’ll start at £3k for everything, happy to listen to others for advice regarding the value etc and open to offers.

Located Nr Poole In Dorset

[Peter Laidler]

If I might be so bold as to say so, I think that the lack of interest thus far with 180+ hits already, indicates that there's something not right. With the actual engines authenticity - and an unserviceable gearbox - coupled with an eye watering estimate. Others might add to their thoughts about the 998 engine and alternator. Just a thought in passing......

[MiNiKiN]

No idea what to ask for it so I’ll start at £3k for everything, happy to listen to others for advice regarding the value etc and open to offers.

A few figures, that should enable you to put a more realistic price tag on:
Parts to carry out a minimal overhaul (i.e. with nothing major broken or worn): 1500 Quid, likely more
Machine shop work, overhaul of engine: 2000, rather 3000 by the crust that seems in every pore of this engine.
Just a quick summaryof what this engine'd cost - best and real case:
3,000£ engine buy price
1,500£ spare parts, etc
2,000£ machine shop
6,500£ sum
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3,000£ engine buy price
2,500£ spare parts, etc
3,000£ machine shop
8,500£ sum

I suggest a grand, which would be a realistic price for this engine. Not having interest in it myself, though.

[Exminiman]

No idea what to ask for it so I’ll start at £3k for everything, happy to listen to others for advice regarding the value etc and open to offers.

A few figures, that should enable you to put a more realistic price tag on:
Parts to carry out a minimal overhaul (i.e. with nothing major broken or worn): 1500 Quid, likely more
Machine shop work, overhaul of engine: 2000, rather 3000 by the crust that seems in every pore of this engine.
Just a quick summaryof what this engine'd cost - best and real case:
3,000£ engine buy price
1,500£ spare parts, etc
2,000£ machine shop
6,500£ sum
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3,000£ engine buy price
2,500£ spare parts, etc
3,000£ machine shop
8,500£ sum

I suggest a grand, which would be a realistic price for this engine. Not having interest in it myself, though.

Dont forget this is for every thing, inc remote, carbs, subframe, gearbox and ancillaries....not just the engine.
So presuming it has an appropriate engine number, maybe £1.5K to £2K ?

[mk1]

In General.

Please resist discussing prices (Rule No: 1)

If an item is priced correctly it will sell, if not it won't.

In this case (as the OP has asked for comment).

The price is ridiculous. There are only a handful of parts that would be worth anything to anyone, head, inlet manifold, carbs? Personally I would price it at around £500 maximum.

[Andrew1967]

Providing the early type air box has the intake tube intact, that is very desirable and would help the value.

[111Robin]

Hi,
In my opinion you would generate more interest, and possibly cash, by splitting it up.
More people will be after a 295 head, carbs, airbox, gearbox or subframe rather than a complete unit.

[mk1]

Providing the early type air box has the intake tube intact, that is very desirable and would help the value.

Good point! I missed that. M

[DFH8C]

Hi,
In my opinion you would generate more interest, and possibly cash, by splitting it up.
More people will be after a 295 head, carbs, airbox, gearbox or subframe rather than a complete unit.

I think you’re right and will probably end up splitting the lot and selling separately if there is no interest.
. It just seems a shame if someone is looking for a complete engine & gearbox for a rebuild..

I do appreciate peoples advice given but also think that people saying the initial £3k price is ridiculous is a bit strong and frankly wrong! Whilst £3k may be too much It was always open to offers and as we all know the carbs and air box are worth a fair chunk of that on their own.

[mk1]

In all fairness, this is EXACTLY why I discourage discussion of people's advertisements, but in this case you advertised them with an unrealistic price & asked for people to comment, so they did.

£3,000 is almost into Cooper S money, not 998 Cooper(ish). I'm not trying to be disrespectful, just realistic.

I have bought 1 x MG 1100 & 2 x 998 Cooper engines in the last 12 months, all of which were in a similar condition to yours & I haven't paid over £500 for any of them.

Recently I bought a fully rebuilt, ready to fit Cooper S short motor & paid only marginally more than £3,000 for that.