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Put this up here to discuss rather that the for sale section.

My observation is that's its not made 100% clear as to whether its been re,shelled ,only that its the correct age shell, or am I missing something

It says 'matching shell and engine number' which to me would imply that it's the restored original.

Perhaps the norm now being re-shells, we have all become cynical?

It will be interesting to see what it bids too, and if it sells.

Al

Well maybe..but Its not that hard to state that a car retains it's original shell, as apposed to "a correct 970 shell".

It's called "car sales bullshit"

The dates of manufacture, registration etc are all over the place Advert says 64, DVLA says 65 and french docs don't corroborate anything. Under wing not showing shock absorber mounts but underbonnet not showing hydro pipes. very strange.

I see the link to the auction is in the for sale section

I have a car that is a week earlier than this one. Never welded or messed with / one owner etc. That too has the 'mid changes' mixed set up such as door lights, stabilised speedo etc and yet, the older style sun visors and metal mirror.

Nick W wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 1:02 pm https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/ ... gn=website
Put this up here to discuss rather that the for sale section.

My observation is that's its not made 100% clear as to whether its been re,shelled ,only that its the correct age shell, or am I missing something

To be fair it’s the last thing sellers usually want to talk about. It’s VERY rare for a seller to admit their £40k Cooper S has been reshelled because it’s the quickest way to put off a buyer. I speak from experience.

I wondered if it was a dual country car (two cars) as was still registered in UK, but I dont think it is - I had missed the log book and restoration photos on my phone.

Even if it was converted to dry, being a 970 this may of happened very early in its life, for competition or fast road use.

Hi all

What photos do you need about my car. Why you write the body was changed?

Regards

Hi Pierre,

your car was built on the cusp of a change, and some documentation suggests that it was originally hydrolastic, not dry suspension. My Morris 850 is a week older than yours and has hydrolastic. We are a very careful bunch on here I'm afraid, and double check everything.

I think the car has sold now so this may not matter?

I was pipped by £50!!

£50!
Ffs

Hi , no the car was not sold. Reserve price not met.

So I will keep it my garage with my other British cars.

I read in original mini cooper that my chassis number should be the first or maybe the last to be hydro or hard…

I will appreciate your help and knowing to light my brain about that

Is there other interesting pictures you need or something else?

It is not A duplicate one because I have the original loog book and I import the car in France

Out of interest, what reserve did you have ?

Hi Nick and folks, had a bit of nice chat with the vendor and discussed different aspects of his car. The shell is definitely that cross over period of a few weeks when the old metal mirror and small visors sat alongside a voltage regulated electrical system and a hydro type rest of the shell. The heritage cert says it was despatched with the original type oil cooler, and that is still on the car.

The new front panel with its diagonal (later oil cooler clearance) in the pic may throw the eye however, but as we know from some these hybrids, when built dry they used the hydro pipe brackets for the fuel line. Anyway, it all looks spot on to me. I suspect it was marked down for hydro, but in the end had the last of the dry set ups? Just a guess of course.

Pretty rare beast then? I hope Simon may come along and confirm, as he too has a crossover car from that period in late 64.