A small update

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Re: A small update

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Poor buggers. What a farce
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My Journo contact hasn't picked up on this unfortunately, but this retrospective lark is very worrying indeed. I'm glad you have included the holes details here.

Also the reversal option needs to be emphasised I'd suggest, so that owner have a choice and not just a random decision!!!
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Re: A small update

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Peter Laidler wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:06 pm I phoned a friend an hour or so ago, a Transport specialist solicitor living in Aylesbury. And so far as he can read and recall, there is only 1 piece of traffic legislation that is retrospective. In other words, overrides legally hereafter what existed previously.

Indicators....... Even if your old car had stick-out, lit or unlit, indicators you have to add current flashers too.

(coincidentally, my brothers old 1945 Bedford lorry had to have flashing indicators additionally fitted 30 years ago too. Retrospective MoT requirement!)
Don't think so Peter. We have vehicles which still have only semaphore indicators. Never have any trouble getting them through MOTs.
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See what you mean OEW, but that's what this piece of retrospective law demands - according to the specialist man who also agrees that such needy vehicles are now exempt testing in any case.
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Flashing or non flashing semaphore arms are perfectly legal. Pre 1936 and you still don't need any indicators.
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Peeps,
This is more about what may be from here on in, the obvious issue is not whether semaphore lights are fine or not or if laws can be applied retrospectively, but that modifications are NOT fine anymore.
Old rules were applied to my conversion, and that was OK’ed by an idiots boss and their boss too.
If you are comfortable that this new rule application will not affect you then sleep easy, just like I used to, and don’t bother to sign the petition once it is finalised and live.
It is as simple as that.
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First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

A much greater issue than this little thing but a point made better than I ever could by Pastor Martin Niemöller.
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Re: A small update

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The DVLA has recently changed the application of their rules on registering the conversion of internal combustion cars to electric power. They are now acting to prevent these conversions, acting to remove converted cars from the road, and using these rules to insist on an IVA and Q-plate for classic cars which have 'modifications' as small as holes drilled in the boot.
The DVLA must urgently clarify how and why their old rules are being applied to this new issue and justify the conflict with government policies on reducing emissions and the environment.

If they cannot do this, then they must write new specific codes and rules for the retrospective electrification of cars and review their recent cases.


For what it's worth, I reckon this new wording is excellent.
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Re: A small update

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imack wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:16 pm Flashing or non flashing semaphore arms are perfectly legal. Pre 1936 and you still don't need any indicators.
Plenty of A30s '52-'56 running around with trafficators ... some completely as Austin made them.
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Peter Laidler
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Re: A small update

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Dear O' deary me.... Are we talking about unlawful retrospective legislation - or trafficators on A30's.

I have already told John Bxxxxxxx a traffic law specialist solicitor (who used to advise us on DVLA matters incidentally) that he is crap. He responded by..... No, let's leave it there
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