ULEZ Expansion Planned in London August 2023

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Anti-Ulez 'Blade Runner' campaigner chops down enforcement cameras with tree lopper:-
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/ ... 00577.html
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mab01uk wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:36 pm Anti-Ulez 'Blade Runner' campaigner chops down enforcement cameras with tree lopper:-
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/ ... 00577.html
Why is it that makes me smile so much 👍👍😁😁
Maybe it’s because it has bugger all to do with clean air and a lot to do with indirect taxation …..
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I suggest riveting your exempt number plates to your vehicle and take a photo of them on your vehicle locally. Forget double sided sticky back tape. :lol:
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Outer London today but coming to a town near you soon?

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Londoners buy up classic cars to dodge Sadiq Khan’s Ulez expansion.
Londoners are taking to classic cars as a way of dodging Sadiq Khan’s Ulez charge.
"Dealers say they have witnessed a surge in interest as the capital braces for the £12.50 charge to expand to cover all 32 boroughs next week, while older cars selling online are being advertised for their exemption status.
Cars manufactured before 1983 qualify as “historic vehicles” and do not need to pay the Mayor’s clean air levy to drive in London. They can also be registered for an exemption from vehicle tax.
Merlin McCormack, owner of Duke of London, a vintage car dealership in Brentford, said it was “ironic” that some of his customers buying more affordable classic cars were doing so because they are Ulez-exempt, despite the vehicles being more polluting than modern counterparts.
He said: “We sell a lot of entry level classic cars as well as high end stuff. A lot of what we sell is very driveable early 80s [and] late 70s and where they are [Ulez] exempt a lot of customers are looking to buy that as their sole London car.”
He added that Ulez was now a deciding factor for most of his customers who drive in London.
Reselling and auctioneer website Car & Classic currently has several vehicles listed for sale in and around London advertising that they are exempt from the Ulez charge, such as a 1970 Hillman Imp Super for £9,500 and a 1972 Austin Mini for £20,000.
Transport for London allows for a rolling 40-year window that currently permits Ulez exemptions for cars manufactured in the early eighties."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consu ... expansion/
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mab01uk wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:10 pm Londoners buy up classic cars to dodge Sadiq Khan’s Ulez expansion.
Londoners are taking to classic cars as a way of dodging Sadiq Khan’s Ulez charge.
"Dealers say they have witnessed a surge in interest as the capital braces for the £12.50 charge to expand to cover all 32 boroughs next week, while older cars selling online are being advertised for their exemption status.
Cars manufactured before 1983 qualify as “historic vehicles” and do not need to pay the Mayor’s clean air levy to drive in London. They can also be registered for an exemption from vehicle tax.
Merlin McCormack, owner of Duke of London, a vintage car dealership in Brentford, said it was “ironic” that some of his customers buying more affordable classic cars were doing so because they are Ulez-exempt, despite the vehicles being more polluting than modern counterparts.
He said: “We sell a lot of entry level classic cars as well as high end stuff. A lot of what we sell is very driveable early 80s [and] late 70s and where they are [Ulez] exempt a lot of customers are looking to buy that as their sole London car.”
He added that Ulez was now a deciding factor for most of his customers who drive in London.
Reselling and auctioneer website Car & Classic currently has several vehicles listed for sale in and around London advertising that they are exempt from the Ulez charge, such as a 1970 Hillman Imp Super for £9,500 and a 1972 Austin Mini for £20,000.
Transport for London allows for a rolling 40-year window that currently permits Ulez exemptions for cars manufactured in the early eighties."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consu ... expansion/
This is being reported on some of the internet news sites as well.

I assume that the only reason that cars older than 40 years are exempt is because they have calculated there is not many of them and they will be driven occasionally and so the impact on air quality will be small.

If the number of 40 year old cars increases, they may well argue the volume of older cars is bad for air quality and charge for them…..or ban them.

He is determined to get his ULEZ tax one way or another……

Not good thing for genuine classic cars enthusiasts within the Ulez zone.
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Interesting plan :shock:

Lets face it, in the end his plan is virtually no cars on the road in London by 2030, the roads will be used for automatic (ed) public transport and cycling and skipping.

All personal vehicle movements to be charged by the mile automatically.

This ties in with the “15 minute City” idea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15-minute_city. which effectively creates a small town or village within a city, so that everything, work, Doctors, shopping etc…is all within 15 minutes of where you live.

They can then “ reclaim” the streets and get rid of cars….. other cities are looking at this as well.

I believe this has been on the agenda for quite a while, especially inner London. The inner London boroughs have had loads on money pumped into them and some are now surprisingly nice, leafy areas to live. The areas have been planned with a focus on local living and not cars….

Personally, I think the “The 15 Minute city” idea has lots of merits, unfortunately, its been highjacked by the anti car lobby, the conspiracy theorists, the pro car lobby see it as toxic etc….so any rational debate is now gone…. :(
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Useful Map below showing the London ULEZ camera locations.
Active cameras are shown in red.
Missing/damaged cameras are shown in black.

Julie's ULEZ Map:-
http://tinyurl.com/JulieULEZmap

In spite of numerous requests, TfL is refusing to disclose the location of the cameras. (So much for FOI)
The aim of this page is to crowd-source the location of cameras across the zone.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/297878371978179/
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So chaps
What’s a good ulez compliant car for under £5000, less than 10 years old and preferably something that can cope with high mileage?
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