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rogerotto66s wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 5:03 pm
360gts wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:06 pm
Are you missing the rubber buffer/s on the boot board brackets???
Think they are still available.
I knew when I posted that picture someone would notice.
The rubber buffer is there now.
The picture was taken when I was trying to determine what these 3 pieces were.
Here is that topic.

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Thanks for noticing Dermott
I just couldn't resist Roger 😂 I was nicked picked to death about rivets🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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apblake wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:13 pm Roger have you documented your car in the section of this forum for Our Cars and Projects? I haven't seen it there and I know I would very much enjoy seeing your car coming back to life. I'm sure others would as well.
Thanks for asking Adam.
I am in the process of organizing all my pictures.
I will then consider documenting my project in the Our Cars and Projects.
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850RS wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:39 pm That Cooper S on BaT recently got roasted over some minor details that weren’t right and it killed the price. Shame as it looked like a fairly decent car.
Yeah selling a car now involves getting it picked apart by people who are usually not in a position to buy it, misinformed and neither can they see the wood for the trees on that sale! Poor seller! That said it was a little untidy especially underneath, looked quite used and not the best paint but original Ss like that are a rare thing over here, a perfect example of what I was talking about. If it’d been a perfectly “correct” restored ringer they’d have no doubt loved it. 🤦‍♂️
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Oh God not this odd Saga :lol:
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Pete wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 10:34 am Don’t forget the sound deadening inside the bootlid! I’m in two minds about all the exact detail, replacing your replacement parts for parts with the “correct” dates stamped on them is a fairly modern phenomenon and though I hate to see cars thrown together or ruined by a bad restoration I can’t help but think it’s gone abit too far to the point where people are too scared to take their cars out to a show for fear of ridicule!
So long as people enjoy their cars is the important thing and I’m wondering whether the minute detail has detracted from that.
Do agree with this, personally I think its been taken too far by some people and actually resulted in the history and patina of some cars being removed. Its almost become a bit like collecting train numbers…….rather than appreciating the history of a vehicle, including its repairs, patina etc…..You would have to have a thick skin (or want a fight ) to display your car at some cars showsthese days :lol:
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Exminiman wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 12:03 pm
Pete wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 10:34 am Don’t forget the sound deadening inside the bootlid! I’m in two minds about all the exact detail, replacing your replacement parts for parts with the “correct” dates stamped on them is a fairly modern phenomenon and though I hate to see cars thrown together or ruined by a bad restoration I can’t help but think it’s gone abit too far to the point where people are too scared to take their cars out to a show for fear of ridicule!
So long as people enjoy their cars is the important thing and I’m wondering whether the minute detail has detracted from that.
Do agree with this, personally I think its been taken too far by some people and actually resulted in the history and patina of some cars being removed. Its almost become a bit like collecting train numbers…….rather than appreciating the history of a vehicle, including its repairs, patina etc…..You would have to have a thick skin (or want a fight ) to display your car at some cars showsthese days :lol:
In full agreement with you, especially things being picked apart by the misinformed. I was at an event earlier in the year with 'Tweed' and listened with a wry smile a pair of gents dressed in some sort of MG regalia discussing how our car wasn't a "proper Cooper" because it didn't have a red and gold brocade seats.... No doubt the same jerks who think "every' Cooper S came equipped with twin tanks. :roll:

Like Mark said earlier, I'd rather see cars being used properly and enjoyed than being scrutinised in every detail by rivet counters.
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No doubt the same jerks who think "every' Cooper S came equipped with twin tanks. :roll:

Like Mark said earlier, I'd rather see cars being used properly and enjoyed than being scrutinised in every detail by rivet counters.
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I thought every Cooper S had twin tanks ... except my '64 1071.

A bit of reverse twist as I keep hearing people saying my 850 basic is a Cooper S as it's got twin tanks. Does a dummy filler cap count?

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tweedy998 wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 9:45 pm In full agreement with you, especially things being picked apart by the misinformed. I was at an event earlier in the year with 'Tweed' and listened with a wry smile a pair of gents dressed in some sort of MG regalia discussing how our car wasn't a "proper Cooper" because it didn't have a red and gold brocade seats.... No doubt the same jerks who think "every' Cooper S came equipped with twin tanks. :roll:

Like Mark said earlier, I'd rather see cars being used properly and enjoyed than being scrutinised in every detail by rivet counters.
That’s just part and parcel of owning a classic car, I wouldn’t take it too seriously. I’m sure we’ve all talked complete crap at a show about a car we don't know enough about :lol: . Same with the twin tanks, it’s become a running joke on my page! :lol: But yeah it can become pretty tiring!
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Back to the "Stepped Washer" - I must be being a bit dozy, but I dont get what it actually does - apart from make it slightly easier to assemble in the factory by stopping the bolt rotating.

What does it achieve apart from that ?
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Absolutely nothing at all.
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I hear and understand what some are saying about having an obsession with originality, down to the date codes on parts that can't be seen, insulation in the boot lid hidden by the covering board, date codes on glass and internals to the engine and gearbox.

I was fortunate to acquire a 1970 Cooper S that had been used as an unmarked (no external signage or Police markings) pursuit vehicle by NSW Police here in Australia. The guy I purchased it from bought it at the Government auction in 1971, used it as his daily driver for a while and then parked it under his house in 1991 when the clutch spat the dummy, which is how I bought it. He did virtually nothing to it in the early days apart from essential servicing. Parts that were replaced, such as the cast iron water pump, displacer with holed hose and one or two other bits came with the car in boxes. The fiberglass insulation from under the bonnet was carefully wrapped and stored after it fell off. He still had the BMC accessories such as sump guard, Perspex wind deflector on the drivers door and mesh aluminium sunscreen across the top of the windscreen.

Since I was starting with a very original and rare vehicle I spent the extra time, effort and funds to keep it as original as possible. I've managed to acquire all of the Police items removed before auction, such as the siren, flashing blue light, fire extinguisher, calibrated speedometer, two-way radio, driving lights, etc. When it's on display I am very happy to take constructive criticism as I may have overlooked something. I'm also happy when people say, "Wow, that's a time machine and a great reference for others seeking originality".

Each to his own on the purpose and use of an amazing and versatile piece of motoring history, the might Mini, regardless of colour, power plant, badging or condition.

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That manikin makes me smile every time I see it, it makes the display, must cause lots of discussion and hilarity. :lol:

For originality maybe all Police Cooper Ss should have one ? :lol:
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Whenever I see it, I just wonder where the American Indian, the Construction Worker, the Cowboy & the Sailor have got to.

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Exminiman wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 9:19 am That manikin makes me smile every time I see it, it makes the display, must cause lots of discussion and hilarity. :lol:
I certainly caused both surprise and glee at that display with Rauno and Bob leaning on the door (Motorclassica 2019 in Melbourne), especially youngsters who had never seen a real Mini, let alone an ex-Police version. I invited kids to sit in the passenger seat with microphone in hand so the proud parents could take a photo. No pressing the siren switch though. ;)
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A fantastic display!
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Just wonder what the POLICE sign stuck in the passenger window is there for? Does the passenger point to it as they're overtaking the errant other car driver? A flip-up POLICE STOP sign in the back window might be better.

(Or as happened to me on the M6 southbound, while slightly(?) exceeding the limit in my MGB GT V8, the unmarked Saab Turbo that I'd overtaken several miles ago, drew alongside (he'd almost run out of steam.......), put his chequered band hat on and indicated with his finger that he'd like me to pull over)
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This is the portable POLICE sign. It plugs into an accessory socket and can be held up to an offending driver when alongside after flipping the light switch with a thumb, or clipped over the window glass as a semi-permanent fixture.

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Got that..... can see the wire now, connecting the sign to the plug-in socket. The difference between your replica policeman and our pommy traffic cops is that ours all seem to have the peaks of their caps slashed, so that it looks like they're looking down their noses at the errant motorists.
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