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Yep, me too....... I've always had these mixed feelings about date stamps and other trivia. Seems like I am not alone either! I'm another of those users (albeit summer day users.....) who maintain my car for reliability, maintainability and durability foremost. Rear seat uprights.........!!!!! Out of sight, out of mind I say.
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rogerotto66s wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 1:24 pm
Oneball wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 10:17 am What’s the “special washer (on back side of engine) connecting block to gearbox”?

Part number 12A1150


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Thanks Roger, That's the one :lol:
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That’s not what I was expecting, whats the raised bit do?
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Pete wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 10:34 am Don’t forget the sound deadening inside the bootlid!
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Also have the original sound deadening for the bonnet.

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Oneball wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 2:22 pm That’s not what I was expecting, whats the raised bit do?
Stops the bolt from turning when tightening the nut.
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That stepped washer is important. I think that they were designated 'WASHER, Stepped..' and the stepped part was an anti rotation feature. In addition, these washers were what we called a 'loaded' item. They were also used in turrets where the washer, unable to rotate (during vibration/cannon fire etc etc) and would part-support another item. I don't expect many minis to have turrets fitted but the principle is there!
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rogerotto66s wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 2:40 pm
Pete wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 10:34 am Don’t forget the sound deadening inside the bootlid!


Are you missing the rubber buffer/s on the boot board brackets???
Think they are still available.
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Roger have you documented your car in the section of this forum for Our Cars and Projects? I haven't seen it there and I know I would very much enjoy seeing your car coming back to life. I'm sure others would as well.
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360gts wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:06 pm
Are you missing the rubber buffer/s on the boot board brackets???
Think they are still available.
I knew when I posted that picture someone would notice.
The rubber buffer is there now.
The picture was taken when I was trying to determine what these 3 pieces were.
Here is that topic.

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Thanks for noticing Dermott
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That Cooper S on BaT recently got roasted over some minor details that weren’t right and it killed the price. Shame as it looked like a fairly decent car.
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rogerotto66s wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 5:03 pm
360gts wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:06 pm
Are you missing the rubber buffer/s on the boot board brackets???
Think they are still available.
I knew when I posted that picture someone would notice.
The rubber buffer is there now.
The picture was taken when I was trying to determine what these 3 pieces were.
Here is that topic.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=30642

Thanks for noticing Dermott
I just couldn't resist Roger 😂 I was nicked picked to death about rivets🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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apblake wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:13 pm Roger have you documented your car in the section of this forum for Our Cars and Projects? I haven't seen it there and I know I would very much enjoy seeing your car coming back to life. I'm sure others would as well.
Thanks for asking Adam.
I am in the process of organizing all my pictures.
I will then consider documenting my project in the Our Cars and Projects.
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850RS wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:39 pm That Cooper S on BaT recently got roasted over some minor details that weren’t right and it killed the price. Shame as it looked like a fairly decent car.
Yeah selling a car now involves getting it picked apart by people who are usually not in a position to buy it, misinformed and neither can they see the wood for the trees on that sale! Poor seller! That said it was a little untidy especially underneath, looked quite used and not the best paint but original Ss like that are a rare thing over here, a perfect example of what I was talking about. If it’d been a perfectly “correct” restored ringer they’d have no doubt loved it. 🤦‍♂️
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Oh God not this odd Saga :lol:
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Pete wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 10:34 am Don’t forget the sound deadening inside the bootlid! I’m in two minds about all the exact detail, replacing your replacement parts for parts with the “correct” dates stamped on them is a fairly modern phenomenon and though I hate to see cars thrown together or ruined by a bad restoration I can’t help but think it’s gone abit too far to the point where people are too scared to take their cars out to a show for fear of ridicule!
So long as people enjoy their cars is the important thing and I’m wondering whether the minute detail has detracted from that.
Do agree with this, personally I think its been taken too far by some people and actually resulted in the history and patina of some cars being removed. Its almost become a bit like collecting train numbers…….rather than appreciating the history of a vehicle, including its repairs, patina etc…..You would have to have a thick skin (or want a fight ) to display your car at some cars showsthese days :lol:
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Exminiman wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 12:03 pm
Pete wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 10:34 am Don’t forget the sound deadening inside the bootlid! I’m in two minds about all the exact detail, replacing your replacement parts for parts with the “correct” dates stamped on them is a fairly modern phenomenon and though I hate to see cars thrown together or ruined by a bad restoration I can’t help but think it’s gone abit too far to the point where people are too scared to take their cars out to a show for fear of ridicule!
So long as people enjoy their cars is the important thing and I’m wondering whether the minute detail has detracted from that.
Do agree with this, personally I think its been taken too far by some people and actually resulted in the history and patina of some cars being removed. Its almost become a bit like collecting train numbers…….rather than appreciating the history of a vehicle, including its repairs, patina etc…..You would have to have a thick skin (or want a fight ) to display your car at some cars showsthese days :lol:
In full agreement with you, especially things being picked apart by the misinformed. I was at an event earlier in the year with 'Tweed' and listened with a wry smile a pair of gents dressed in some sort of MG regalia discussing how our car wasn't a "proper Cooper" because it didn't have a red and gold brocade seats.... No doubt the same jerks who think "every' Cooper S came equipped with twin tanks. :roll:

Like Mark said earlier, I'd rather see cars being used properly and enjoyed than being scrutinised in every detail by rivet counters.
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No doubt the same jerks who think "every' Cooper S came equipped with twin tanks. :roll:

Like Mark said earlier, I'd rather see cars being used properly and enjoyed than being scrutinised in every detail by rivet counters.
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I thought every Cooper S had twin tanks ... except my '64 1071.

A bit of reverse twist as I keep hearing people saying my 850 basic is a Cooper S as it's got twin tanks. Does a dummy filler cap count?

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tweedy998 wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 9:45 pm In full agreement with you, especially things being picked apart by the misinformed. I was at an event earlier in the year with 'Tweed' and listened with a wry smile a pair of gents dressed in some sort of MG regalia discussing how our car wasn't a "proper Cooper" because it didn't have a red and gold brocade seats.... No doubt the same jerks who think "every' Cooper S came equipped with twin tanks. :roll:

Like Mark said earlier, I'd rather see cars being used properly and enjoyed than being scrutinised in every detail by rivet counters.
That’s just part and parcel of owning a classic car, I wouldn’t take it too seriously. I’m sure we’ve all talked complete crap at a show about a car we don't know enough about :lol: . Same with the twin tanks, it’s become a running joke on my page! :lol: But yeah it can become pretty tiring!
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Back to the "Stepped Washer" - I must be being a bit dozy, but I dont get what it actually does - apart from make it slightly easier to assemble in the factory by stopping the bolt rotating.

What does it achieve apart from that ?
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Absolutely nothing at all.
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