Electric conversion

[Andrew1967]

I’d have to agree …

I can understand the technical achievements of converting a classic but to me as just said above, it’s the sound (for instance) a classic Mini makes that does it for me. Starting up HOY last weekend and listening to the exhaust note is just music to my ears and as for the sound of the straight cut gearboxes at Blyton …

I was at a mates garage and he had an electric Porsche in and an AMG Merc SLK in. He moved the Porsche .. no noise apart from tyre noise (why it was in for a new tyre .. £360 a corner when he can get one ?!) . Moved the SLK and my comment was ‘THAT’S what a car should sound like !) .

[Bitsilly]

My sole reason was to make it as fast as possible as a sleeper.
It would have been able to embarrass virtually anything on the road at least for a while!
Bear in mind that the watch guts of my car was a shot 850, so I prefer the analogy of ripping the guts out of a grand father clock and replacing it with cocaine and dynamite.

[Bitsilly]

My run around is an AMG SLK.

[Andrew1967]

My sole reason was to make it as fast as possible as a sleeper.
It would have been able to embarrass virtually anything on the road at least for a while!
Bear in mind that the watch guts of my car was a shot 850, so I prefer the analogy of ripping the guts out of a grand father clock and replacing it with cocaine and dynamite.

That would have been brilliant to see Bitsilly, shame on DVLA for destroying that !

A bit like the Elise powered Mini that’s always at Blyton. Lols like a bog standard Mini , a great sleeper.

[Peter Laidler]

Not perhaps the place to say this, after the total flak and stick that we - and I - have given the DVLA.

But heard a few weeks ago of a new VW beetle buyer in the late 70's had all the docs and paperwork for the car, up to the day he sold it some years later after giving it to his daughter. He saw that the car was still registered MOT etc and asked the DVLA to send on the docs to the new owner - without divulging names etc. Enclosed a large stamped envelope and the person with the heart and brains at DVLA did just that and sent the docs to the current keeper.

Personally, I''d have just asked my local police station to do the same......

[Bitsilly]

It is nice to know some humans still work there, it should be encouraged.
Personally I’m going to take up a hobby that attracts less governmental attention, like fly tipping, breaking and entering, and of course, building pot holes

[gazza82]

Got to agree with others on here, I don't understand why you would want to do it, you drop 21K on a conversion then have a car that at the best will get you 80 miles and no doubt shorter if you use the lights and heater ( presuming it has a heater) then you have to wait for it to charge up. EV cars have a place in this world but in my opinion not in the classic car one, surely one of the things about classic cars is the sound of the engine, driving about in a EV classic sounding like a washing machine just isn't for me, but I doubt I'm the target demographic.

MS

Watch the Guy Martin programme in All4 if you want to see the "real" truth about EVs ... enlightening ..

[Pete]

Watched a bit from a podcast with Moggy from Vintage Voltage yesterday. He was discussing what the DVLA guidelines on conversion are and stated that when he’s asked for clarification on permitted modifications to chassis or monocoque that DVLA informed him that even bolting a roll cage into your car should require an IVA and a Q plate!

[mab01uk]

Watched a bit from a podcast with Moggy from Vintage Voltage yesterday. He was discussing what the DVLA guidelines on conversion are and stated that when he’s asked for clarification on permitted modifications to chassis or monocoque that DVLA informed him that even bolting a roll cage into your car should require an IVA and a Q plate!

Just had a listen Pete. The Moggy Vintage Voltage podcast also says as an example the DVLA include things like fitting seat belts into a classic car that did not originally have any, by drilling holes and fitting or welding spreader plates requires an IVA and a Q plate. He says the reason EV conversions get picked up by the DVLA is because when changing the V5 from petrol to electric (although DVLA tax classification stays as petrol) it triggers an inspection, whereupon any additional welding or drilled holes in the original monocoque gets picked up. He goes on to say the only reason every rally or road car with a weld in or bolted in roll cage is not on a Q plate is because no change request has ever been made to the V5 logbook which is what would trigger a DVLA inspection...

IVA & Q Plates is discussed when 31 minutes of the 1h 12min podcast linked below remains. You can fast forward to that point if required.

Converting Classic Cars to EV - Is It Worth the Hate? | Ep 42 | Drive Torque Podcast:-
https://podcasts.apple.com/nz/podcast/c ... 0677893801

[MiNiKiN]

Watched a bit from a podcast with Moggy from Vintage Voltage yesterday. He was discussing what the DVLA guidelines on conversion are and stated that when he’s asked for clarification on permitted modifications to chassis or monocoque that DVLA informed him that even bolting a roll cage into your car should require an IVA and a Q plate!

I always thought our very own Austrian DVLA equivalent are a wunsch of bankers. But no, they are just incooperative, whereas the DVLA seems to have completely lost their marbles. DVLA seemingly changed from Paulus to Saulus, to adapt a biblical analogy.

[Pete]

Watched a bit from a podcast with Moggy from Vintage Voltage yesterday. He was discussing what the DVLA guidelines on conversion are and stated that when he’s asked for clarification on permitted modifications to chassis or monocoque that DVLA informed him that even bolting a roll cage into your car should require an IVA and a Q plate!

He says the reason EV conversions get picked up by the DVLA is because when changing the V5 from petrol to electric (although DVLA tax classification stays as petrol) it triggers an inspection, whereupon any additional welding or drilled holes in the original monocoque gets picked up. He goes on to say the only reason every rally or road car with a weld in or bolted in roll cage is not on a Q plate is because no change request has ever been made to the V5 logbook which is what would trigger a DVLA inspection...

A DVLA inspector wouldn’t have the first clue how many holes a Mk1 shell originally had in it nor when any changed position or were introduced or discontinued , most Mk1 owners dont! Any inspector would have to rely on the owner telling them he or she had drilled any holes and that’s probably where it goes wrong! Farcical.

[Julian Harber]

I did quite a lot of research for a contact in USA who wanted to use the mini as a show/demo car for the electric units he was importing so visited the firm in Oxfordshire a couple of times, they are very keen to preserve the original cars they convert so any modifications are done that it can easily revert to ICE unit - there was a mini there with the higher output electric unit and 5 speed manual gearbox, several E Type jags and classic cars as well as landrovers. A small firm and the quality was good - my USA firm bought 5 units to start with I believe.
I am not an electric fan but driving one is interesting as the tprque is amazing !

[Exminiman]

...it as if the DVLA view an EV conversion in similar way to a kit car build, especially if it is built by an individual rather than a company.

So an individual would have to get a kit car registered and inspected under a Q plate, but if you were a small volume car manufacturer, with QA process, liability insurance eyc.... you will be treated differently.

[maxidave]

What's a police station ?