Single to Twin SU Worth It?
-
- Posts: 15
- Joined: Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:03 pm
Re: Single to Twin SU Worth It?
I'm in BC Canada and do not know of any rolling road facilities in the region. So not likely it will ever be possible to get that level of tuning done.
This twin idea came up bc I came across a complete twin SU setup for mini on a used parts lot for sale. With the input here and other forums, seems the wise option is to stick with what I have and avoid introducing more complexity than I can sort out.
This twin idea came up bc I came across a complete twin SU setup for mini on a used parts lot for sale. With the input here and other forums, seems the wise option is to stick with what I have and avoid introducing more complexity than I can sort out.
-
- 850 Super
- Posts: 116
- Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:12 pm
- Location: Seattle Washington
Re: Single to Twin SU Worth It?
If you're still using the original intake and exhaust manifolds, I would say keep the HS4 and change to an alloy intake manifold and a Cooper free flow exhaust manifold. Cleaning up the HS4 throat should help a bit as well. This works well on an engine that you're not going to rev much above 5500 rpm.
Kelley
Kelley
-
- Basic 850
- Posts: 33
- Joined: Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:59 pm
- Has thanked: 8 times
- Been thanked: 4 times
Re: Single to Twin SU Worth It?
I didn't feel like using HIF very often in Japan, so it's very fresh.
I would love to try it! !
I would love to try it! !
- MiNiKiN
- 1275 Cooper S
- Posts: 1010
- Joined: Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:15 pm
- Location: Graz/Austria // NN1 4ST previously
- Has thanked: 95 times
- Been thanked: 31 times
Re: Single to Twin SU Worth It?
Not having access to a rolling road is no excuse. Simply fit a broad-band O2-sensor (Lambda-sensor) to the LCB manifold connected to a black-box or A/F-Meter. Such you can set-up the carbs on the road - better than on many rolling roads.Tornado99 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:06 pm I'm in BC Canada and do not know of any rolling road facilities in the region. So not likely it will ever be possible to get that level of tuning done.
This twin idea came up bc I came across a complete twin SU setup for mini on a used parts lot for sale. With the input here and other forums, seems the wise option is to stick with what I have and avoid introducing more complexity than I can sort out.
I have a Zeitronix System that even records the AF-Signal along with other sensor signals (rpm, throttle pos, temperature, etc - many optional input signals ). You could define a certain test track and navigate it with defined throttle positions - so you see how the AF-ratio behaves over the revs and correct it en route with different needles to match. e.g. https://www.lambda-tuning.de/zeitronix_ ... sonde.html
Yes I am a nerd: I am researching the Austrian Mini-racing scene of the 60s and 70s 

Re: Single to Twin SU Worth It?
I'm not sure if anyone has told you this on this thread but if you go from single carb to twins, you have to not only change the inlet manifold but you need a new exhaust manifold and all the rest of the exhaust system. It will give you more power, better torque and higher revs which can't be used with benefit unless you change the gears to S ratios. Good luck! R
-
- 998 Cooper
- Posts: 693
- Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:22 pm
- Location: Zummerzet
- Has thanked: 2 times
- Contact:
Re: Single to Twin SU Worth It?
I'll bet you a slab of beer that your carbs aren't balanced.Peter Laidler wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:57 am I am like you Tornado. I use a colourtune to set my mixtures. but I use my sensitive ears and stethescope to set the air intake.
......
Suzy's were done by a professional using a listening tube, and a listening tube with a whistle in, and they weren't even close - I checked them with several different airflow meters afterwards.
Metric is for people who can't do fractions.
- Peter Laidler
- 1275 Cooper S
- Posts: 6434
- Joined: Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:35 pm
- Location: Abingdon Oxfordshire
- Has thanked: 150 times
- Been thanked: 137 times
-
- Posts: 15
- Joined: Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:03 pm
Re: Single to Twin SU Worth It?
Cheers. Bike is a '74 Norton Commando. Came to me with a single Amal carb fitted. Ran ok, tended to be lean overall, bluing on the headers etc. Now has the original setup dual Amal's. Goes like stink.Peter Laidler wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:57 am I am like you Tornado. I use a colourtune to set my mixtures. but I use my sensitive ears and stethescope to set the air intake.
Nothing wrong with a refurbished - or known good - HIF44
What is your classic bike? Me too......
- Peter Laidler
- 1275 Cooper S
- Posts: 6434
- Joined: Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:35 pm
- Location: Abingdon Oxfordshire
- Has thanked: 150 times
- Been thanked: 137 times
Re: Single to Twin SU Worth It?
Hi Tornado, I'm another Norton Commando man. Glad to meet another man of taste. Have you tried an SU?