Morris Engines, Courthouse Green

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All the A-Series 'S' type engines were produced at the Morris Engine Plant at Courthouse Green, north of Coventry, The forum link below shares ex-employees memories of working at Morris Engines, Courthouse Green. There are some interesting stories and old photos posted there, which might be worthy of some further research related to S engine production, etc.... perhaps with 'inside' information from the workers who produced them?

Historic Coventry Forum - Morris Engines, Courthouse Green (26 pages/377 posts) :-
https://www.historiccoventryforum.co.uk ... w_cats=all

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This is a photo of the engine despatch loading bay (Photo: Les Beard)

Listing below is from the book:-
The A-Series Engine - Its First Sixty Years
by Graham Robson


1951 = A-Series 803cc engine manufacture started in Longbridge, at the re-equipped North Works for the Austin A30 with Zenith carburettor and soon after also fitted to the Morris Minor in 1952 (designed by Alec Issigonis at Cowley, Oxford) but with an SU carburettor this time as insisted by the Morris engineers !

1962 - 1970 = all A-Series 'S' type engines were produced at the Morris Engine Plant at Courthouse Green in north of Coventry = production of all 970, 1071 and 1275cc S engines as designed by Eddie Maher & John Cooper (& early Midget/Sprite 1275cc engines) and the short lived A-Series Diesel.

1963 = Mainstream A-series production moved from North Works to the underused Longbridge, East Works which was re-equipped tp build up to 12,000 engines and transmissions every week for the Mini and 1100 ranges with the ability to also make in-line engines for Midget, Sprite, Minor, A40, etc.

By 1966 = East Works was producing 848, 998, 1098cc to suit demand as required.

In 1968 = East Works also started producing the 1275 non 'S' versions of A-Series for mainstream mass production.

(All 'S' versions of 1275 engine continued manufacture at Morris Courthouse Green, Coventry until the end of production in 1970's)
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Interesting post extract below from a former apprentice toolmaker on his first day at work (Post No.25)

"Mention of the foundry at Courthouse Green brought back memories of the day I started my apprenticeship in the summer of 1959.
Leaving Woodlands School I had two weeks to myself before reporting to Morris Engines as an apprentice toolmaker. I had been assured by all that toolmaking was the best trade in Coventry, on reflection I think that was probably correct at the time.
Mind you nothing prepared us for the vision of hell that was the foundry.
Very odd looking back that interviews never included a tour of the factory; this was left for the first day at work.
There were probably about 18 of us meeting for the first time, all very apprehensive of what the future held for us. After signing some documents we were issued with our first boiler suits, green so we could be spotted at a distance. Ever tried to put on a boiler suit that was too small, not a good experience.
Anyway once we looked the part, even wearing ties as toolmakers always had to look smart (forget health and safety in 1959), off we went on a tour of Courthouse Green.
The overwhelming smell of cutting oil and suds was the initial sensation which was never to go away. The blackness and filthy dust of the cast iron shop, blocks and cylinder heads being machined one after another, we had never seen anything like it. Of more interest were the assembly shops, 'A' and 'B' class engines being put together in a more civilised and clean environment. Mind you the noise from the circular banks of engines being tested was rather loud to say the least. No rocker covers were fitted to enable the testers to set the correct clearances so the thunder of tappets was ear shattering.
The foundry was left until the end. What had we signed up for? It seemed like Dante's inferno, noise, smell, heat and flames it had them all. Normal conversation was impossible but everyone seemed happy. Looking spotless we were the butt of a lot of humour, most of which we couldn't hear.
My day then turned into a farce as my nose started to bleed, so off to the medical centre. There was no way it was going to stop so both nasal passages were packed with lengths of bandage.
What a start to my working life."
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Post No.28:-

"Hi all... I worked on the gear cutting in the early 60s, and used to chat to a friend of mine who was on the final inspection for the gearbox casings, I noticed him putting some in one stillage and some in another, I asked him why and he said the perfect ones are for Austin and the other ones are for Morris. So it would appear the Austin car would have been a better car to buy....."
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Post No.132
"My name is Ellis Lole and I worked at Courthouse Green in B block on the valve section from1960 to 1969, as we were on piece work at the time you needed a good setter to work with you to earn your money. I only got £1 for stamping a 1000 Mini valves and on a good day you did about 4200."
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Post No.153
"The Valve shop was probably the most hazy area after the foundry all the seat grinders started to use oil as a cutting lubricant. Seem to remember a figure around 170,000 a week were sent out all types A B and C series. Bob Hewitt"
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" £1 for stamping a 1000 Mini valves and on a good day you did about 4200."
Doesn't seem that bad for 69, the wages up here (drydocks) was about £23-£25/ week basic :o
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Thanks for posting, fascinating stuff, especially the forum posts.
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Austin would have been the better car to buy? i knew it! :lol:
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Meanwhile, over in Wolfsburg.................. :lol:
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Post no.25 takes me back...but not that far!

Hepworth & Grandage (piston rings) Sunderland foundry wasn't much different in 1986... the foundry was grim but underneath the foundry where the fettling and knocking out took place was even worse and the large grinding wheels that did the ring 'sides' were in a constant mist!!
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Hoburn & Eaton used t'child labour and manufactured t'pumps in t'mill.


Eeeeeh by gum, tha could smell t'cutting oil down t'street tha knows.
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Aye. An you tell that t'yung folk today an they dooon't believe thee.......
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Post No. 311
"Did you ever represent the Morris apprentices at the Coventry carnival. The company used to supply a lorry and a car which was loaded on the back. We dressed it up in the usual regalia, including a camouflaged bar. One year the car was a Wolseley Hornet so we dressed up as hornets, next year it was a Riley Elf so we dressed up as elves etc. but eventually the company withdrew the loan of a vehicle to put on the lorry because the cars were virtually scrapped when we returned them as the bodies were peppered with coin marks from people throwing their loose change at us on the float."
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Post No. 323
"I completed my time in the engine experimental department with a great team taking me under their wing. Such names come into mind as Brian Rees, Bill Mason, Jim Bowen, Tony Farndon, Frank Perdue, David Alexander and heading the department was Eddie Mayor to name just a few. Exiting and historical times now with the development of the 1293 cross flow head fuel injected Cooper S engine, Bill Mason was in his element getting the maximum roar! And of course output on his test bed. The rally Minis, and Healy Sprites engines were also developed there for the Le Mans and Monte Carlo rally. This was short lived as 12 months ofter completing my apprenticeship redundancies were announced as the engine development was being transferred to Longbridge. The engineering grounding has truly stood me in good stead throughout my working career and am grateful that I was a small part of that history in the making."
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Post 328
"One of my most vivid memories was of the foundry, aka Dante's inferno! Scared the **** out of me watching those blokes pouring molten iron, then trotting up to the club for lunch and sinking four or six pints in quick succession, only to go back and do it all again! Where was HSE when you needed it?"
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Post 348
"I had the misfortune to be given the job on the A70 head line, a 6 cylinder lump of cast iron weighing around 50 or 60 pounds.The operation was called "the long op" and it entailed shoving, lifting or pulling the casting through 19 jigs, multi-drillers and tappers. Over the course of a tiring shift I managed to complete 50 parts and was paid £4 19 shillings! This was in 1967 and my back still aches! Triumph Meriden were paying nigh on double money and that's where I went.
I am sorry, Les, but not all memories of the Morris are all-glowing."
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