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Re: Just saying. . . . .

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floormanager wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:56 pm
mab01uk wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:44 pm Meanwhile in the USA, they can't so easily blame Brexit.... :lol:

America's bare shelves: Walmart and Costco limit toilet paper sales while toy companies warn parents their kids' Christmas gifts won't arrive in time thanks to backlog at ports, rail yards and on the roads
Supply chain problems that have been tormenting retailers for months are showing up in America's stores
Around the country, there are shortages of goods on shelves in Target, Costco, Home Depot and Sears
The issues aren't specific to any one type of good and are down to problems with shipping and distribution
Cargo ships off can't get into overworked ports to drop off goods and are hovering off the coast
There is a global shortage in truck drivers which is stalling distribution of goods and railroads are also jammed
The cost of shipping a single container from China to LA reached $20,000 last month - four times what it cost last October
There are fears that some of the backed-up ships at the port in L.A. will not be emptied before Black Friday - the biggest retail day of the year and the start of the Christmas shopping season
Some retailers are telling people to buy Christmas gifts now to ensure they arrive on time
There is no immediate end in sight: Biden has launched a White House supply chain task force but businesses fear the problems will stretch on for months yet
Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell predicts the issues will last until next year - which will prolong inflation.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ation.html
Serves them right for voting leave in 1776 :lol:
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Typical reader profile from the Express, themselves - average reader is 69 years old, first paper was 2016 as well……

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mab01uk wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:44 pm Meanwhile in the USA, they can't so easily blame Brexit.... :lol:

America's bare shelves: Walmart and Costco limit toilet paper sales while toy companies warn parents their kids' Christmas gifts won't arrive in time thanks to backlog at ports, rail yards and on the roads
Supply chain problems that have been tormenting retailers for months are showing up in America's stores
Around the country, there are shortages of goods on shelves in Target, Costco, Home Depot and Sears
The issues aren't specific to any one type of good and are down to problems with shipping and distribution
Cargo ships off can't get into overworked ports to drop off goods and are hovering off the coast
There is a global shortage in truck drivers which is stalling distribution of goods and railroads are also jammed
The cost of shipping a single container from China to LA reached $20,000 last month - four times what it cost last October
There are fears that some of the backed-up ships at the port in L.A. will not be emptied before Black Friday - the biggest retail day of the year and the start of the Christmas shopping season
Some retailers are telling people to buy Christmas gifts now to ensure they arrive on time
There is no immediate end in sight: Biden has launched a White House supply chain task force but businesses fear the problems will stretch on for months yet
Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell predicts the issues will last until next year - which will prolong inflation.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ation.html
Reason for ships moored in LA bay .
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surfblue63 wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:24 pm Currently Germany has higher inflation than the UK, no doubt that is due to us leaving the EU and them not depending on our substantial contributions.
You should also consider the background: last year, due to Covid the German government reduced VAT from 19 to 16% for half a year. When you look on the inflation this alone makes 3% higher prices for everything. And, of course, the energy costs are going through the roof. But then you have to count in that we have the highest taxes on ernergy all over Europe! And with the next social-democratic/green coalition government this will turn to the worst situation voters certainly did not want to see before the election here.

If I give the impression that I do not like the green party you are absolutely right. They are a bunch of idiots in my view.
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surfblue63 wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 4:46 pm Any one fancy a game

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Where can I get one... !
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Boris can be a bit of a prat, but its the president of the EU Ursula von der Leyen that would worry me if we were still in the EU

Shes just a bit scary, makes Margret Thatcher look like an easy going ditherer ...

Telling Poland that if they dont toe the line “ they are out”and the Polish government are not important, its the EU that have control, ultimately :shock:


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I think the issues with Poland are important. There are two issues:

(a)the separation of powers between the government (the executive) and the judiciary. That is a fundamental check and balance in a democracy- once you go down the route of giving the government the power to sack judges (which the Polish government has done) you undermine the rule of law and set yourself on a very slippery slope to dictatorship.

(b) the primacy of EU law (in areas covered by the EU Treaties - what a Member State signs up to when it joins: the rules of the club). A Member State is always sovereign to the extent that it signed up to the rules voluntarily and can withdraw at any time. However, if the union is to function it cannot be a that a Member State can pick and choose what it wants to implement because that distorts the playing field for the others. Opt outs enshrined in the Treaty are a different matter - that is fine because all agreed to them collectively.

The problem with the combination of both issues is that they create serious problems if the EU is planning to give a country large amounts of EU funding since you have to know that ultimately the rule of law applies and that there is legal redress should the money be misappropriated.

So its about Poland living up to the commitments, responsibilities and obligations it has signed up to. Nobody is going to kick anybody out (the Treaty contains no provisions for that).
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My point is really simple - if the EU insists on trying to over rule a sovereign nations government - those countries are far more likely to want to leave.

Right or wrong is pretty much irrelevant here......
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And mine is simple too. If you join the club then you have to abide by the rules otherwise you create an unfairness for all of the other members who do. That is nothing to do with sovereignty - it was a sovereign choice of the government in question to join. They can equally take a sovereign decision to leave. But what they can't expect is to have a unilateral power to interpret the rules that bind all members as they choose - that is not how it works because if everybody does that then you no longer have anything in common which is the entire basis of the thing...

The primacy of EU law relates only to the areas covered by the Treaties - the principle of conferral - anything not covered remains the sole competence of the member countries. The problem in this case is that the issue here - the independence of the judiciary - is something covered by the Treaties: it is a fundamental principle...
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