Fuel panic buying....and more.

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surfblue63
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Re: Fuel panic buying....

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More proof that the press are to blame for the crisis.

Today the Excess ran this story. You'd think the whole country was in grid lock after reading it. Totally irresponsible reporting.
Express.co.uk has identified the 109 areas where petrol shortages have congested traffic arteries
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/14999 ... ortage-evg

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Exminiman
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Re: Fuel panic buying....

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Soo true its very difficult to get to the facts these days

The days of a Journalist checking every story with two sources and publishing the facts rather than their opinion, are long gone

There is a number of fact and statistic checking organisations now, in an effort to combat “Fake News”….

Fullfact have looked at the driver shortage question https://fullfact.org/economy/fuel-shortage-hgv-drivers/

On a more general note i really enjoy “ more or less” by Tim Harford https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qshd
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Exminiman
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Apprentley this is how the 100,000 drivers shortage figure was arrived at by the Haulage association….this is just nonsence…

“It’s been claimed in recent days by Labour leader Keir Starmer, Shadow Chancellor Rachel Reeves, and others, that there is a shortage of 100,000 HGV drivers in the UK.

As reported by BBC Radio 4’s More or Less, that number was calculated by the trade body the Road Haulage Association (RHA), by adding up:
  • How many fewer people passed their HGV licence test in 2020/21 compared to 2019/20 (25,000)
    How many fewer EU national HGV drivers there are now than in 2019 (this depends on which precise periods you compare between, but is around 15,000-19,000)
    What the RHA claims was an existing shortage of 60,000 drivers from 2019
However, the BBC said that the RHA didn’t provide much detail as to how that initial 60,000 shortage was calculated, only mentioning the use of industry vacancy data and lorry numbers.

When Full Fact asked the RHA directly about the figure, it wasn't able to explain why it had estimated the historic shortage at that level. It told Full Fact it estimated this historic level at 50,000 drivers in 2015, but couldn’t explain the figure further.”
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The driver shortages are also as a result of less EU drivers coming to the uk with deliveries and then doing uk based deliveries as approx 10,000 landed every day from Ireland and Europe and before they took an export load out of the UK they did an average of 5 jobs in the UK that’s 50,000 deliveries in the uk x 365. This now has to be taken up by uk drivers. These drivers were never based in the uk but because of the Single market they worked in every EU country.
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Boris was on the BBC Andrew Marr Show this morning .. Boris did not seem to think being unable to get Fuel was an issue to worry about , come to think about it anything raised was not an issue or he was allowed to change the subject if he did not want to answer that next question :roll:
Time to bring back John Humphries we need him to sort out these politicians more that ever now.
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Polarsilver wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 3:30 pm Boris was on the BBC Andrew Marr Show this morning .. Boris did not seem to think being unable to get Fuel was an issue to worry about , come to think about it anything raised was not an issue or he was allowed to change the subject if he did not want to answer that next question :roll:
Time to bring back John Humphries we need him to sort out these politicians more that ever now.
Yep John Humphries, Andrew Neil ….even Eddie Mair has his moments….speaking to BJ (Boris Johnson) “ Your a nasty piece or work aren’t you? :lol:

BJ lives in London and does nor need a car……..it is no issue for him …….
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That was my thoughts too regarding obtaining fuel not being an issue.
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Really think he should be referred to as “BJ” rather than “Boris” :lol:

Near us is a place named “ BJ Bingo” , the mind boggles :o :lol:
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Re: Fuel panic buying....

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Just a thought!
How long will the car queues be when there is a power cut?
Just asking. :lol:
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If you support Brexit or not I think across the board the consensus is BJ is completely useless and lies about lies!
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