New MINI Is 20 Years Old! Is It A Classic? (2001 Y-Reg R50 Cooper Driven)

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New MINI Is 20 Years Old! Is It A Classic? (2001 Y-Reg R50 Cooper Driven)

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"The ‘new Mini’ divided opinion amongst Mini fans when it was released, but as it hits 20 years old in 2021, has it finally earned classic status?"
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MINI R50 is 20 years old, and Goes for a drive
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I just wasn’t interested when they came out, nothing more than that and that lasted many years. I had my head turned though when I bought a GP3, Christ what a weapon that is, driving the original S for the first time in the 60s must have felt just the same, couldn’t take the smile off my face the entire time I owned that car! I’m constantly baffled by the stick the angry pedants give out about MINIS on social media, I just can’t see how MINI has taken anything away from the original, they’re a great AFFORDABLE addition.
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They're affordable to buy, but maintainance and repairs are not. The third gen isn't too bad (yet) but the 2006-13 R56 is a disaster - imo they are the worst used car you can buy. A clutch change on a 07-09 1.6D with the PSA engine is well over £1000, closer to £1500 because every nut and bolt will be rusted solid. 8.5 hour book time, 13 hours in reality. :lol:

They're crap.
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But are they as water soluble? :D

Interesting chat about the MINI at Boolee on the PA.. talking about options for tuning, and accessories, customisation etc.

Not everyone’s favourite car I agree… but early cars are cheap now and there is a good eco system forming of refurbished parts and equipment suppliers..

Another 50 years will tell :D
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It’s taken me a while to come around, but I’m finally starting to view the original R50/R53 MINI as somewhat of a classic in its own right, especially the pre-facelift 2002/2003 Cooper S.

I do agree that with each generation the modern MINI is getting further from its roots. I’ve previously owned a Gen2 2009 JCW, and now drive a Gen3 2015 S.

The Gen2 was a complete nightmare in terms of reliability and repair costs, but being a JCW certainly put a smile on my face when driving 'spiritedly' :) The later car, while much more reliable and comfortable, is not nearly as much fun to drive. It’s just an average mid-size car, nothing special and certainly not minimalist...

Anyway, with no commute since the pandemic I find that I drive the 1967 Cooper S more at weekends than I drive the 2015 Cooper S. On Sunday I filled up the tank in the 2015 car for the first time since March 2020 !

If I were to buy another MINI, it may well be a good Gen1 Cooper S as a weekend fun car - with the 6 speed manual Getrag gearbox of course, not the awful CVT or the 5-speed Midlands unit.
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The problem with the MINI is that for less money you could buy a much better Ford Fiesta.

The R50 wasn't a bad idea and by 2004/5 the main problems were fixed. But now they are a 16 year old car and they can be very, very rusty underneath.

We just finished a 2009 R56 Cooper S and it was just awful. The main issue was that it leaked more water in than the 1959 original. :lol:
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;) My 2005 Cooper Checkmate I got now for 14 years had no big issues. It's a great MINI to drive, had it chipped for some more power and together with a John Cooper Works exhausts system a joy to own.

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UHR850 wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:55 am ;) My 2005 Cooper Checkmate I got now for 14 years had no big issues. It's a great MINI to drive, had it chipped for some more power and together with a John Cooper Works exhausts system a joy to own.

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I have owned a 2002 R50 MINI for the last 15 years with the Rover Midland gearbox with no major problems and no rust but I have changed the MTF 94 gearbox oil (Land-Rover dealers stock it) every couple of years and ignored the original Rover/BMW 'filled for life' main dealer gearbox advice which was the cause of many bearing failures often just outside warranty period! I find the Rover Midland gearbox has a much slicker gearchange action than the 5-speed Getrag gearboxes fitted to the later R50 facelift MINI's. The R53 MINI Cooper S was always fitted with the fairly bullet proof 6-speed Getrag gearbox from launch.

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