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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:40 pm 
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These are on E Bay listed as Cooper S hardy spicer joints.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Classic-Mini ... 1438.l2649


I know they will fit but these are for the in line engine cars...like Minors/Midgets etc. They do not have the locating shoulder on them for correct alignment to the diff stub shaft. They rely on the bolts for alignment!!!
I did mention this to the seller but he insists they are for the cooper S...says he bought them from Mini Sport. I am surprised that Mini Sport is selling these as S parts with the S part number.

Here is the Mini Spares listing and yes, they do list them as Cooper S joints...about half of the price of genuine S joints at Mini Spares.

https://www.minisport.com/27h7880-mini- ... pling.html

Has anyone used these on the Cooper S????


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:45 pm 
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well,,,,,,they are from Mini Sport,,,,,


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:19 pm 
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Spider wrote:
well,,,,,,they are from Mini Sport,,,,,


Surely, someone should question them on selling these as S joints!!!


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:56 am 
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There's a difference between S and Auto Hardy Spicers too, isn't there? S ones using a thicker drive shaft?

I have one Hardy joint with input too narrow for an S drive shaft. Assumed it was from an Auto.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:09 am 
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The Auto shafts and hardy spicer joints I have measure the same as the S type I have.

Nick


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:15 am 
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Its a simple enough job on a lathe to fit locating ring into the flange. Cheap pair of hardy spicers for a little work.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:43 am 
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I use them on my 1460 and they work fine without the locating ring. once bolted up I cant see them being an issue other than a visual thing as they have the screw ring holding the grease in rather than a rubber boot.


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Dermott, the photographs show a Mini Spares hardy spicer on the left and a genuine Mk2 Cooper S on the right. The Mini Spares hardy spicer are not 100% copies and are much more difficult to bolt up if you see what I mean. The Mini Spares couplings look like the MED ones. You will see I've machined the inside of the Mini Spares one to allow a spring washer to be used on a competition car.

I've never used that type you refer to on ebay and for sure would not chance them on a powerful setup. Nick W is correct from what I've seen the Cooper S and early automatic hardy spicers are identical :D

Alan


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:41 pm 
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Nick W wrote:
The Auto shafts and hardy spicer joints I have measure the same as the S type I have.

Nick

I have used these many times...yes, they are identical (Same BMC P/N) and one of the diff side covers is the same as the S....


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:44 pm 
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Nick W wrote:
I use them on my 1460 and they work fine without the locating ring. once bolted up I cant see them being an issue other than a visual thing as they have the screw ring holding the grease in rather than a rubber boot.


No I didnt :roll:
I used swiftune ones that do have a locating ring :)


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