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 Post subject: Brocade question
PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:28 pm 
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Neophyte question I know! What are the years that BMC made gold/silver brocade? Does the older brocade look a bit different than the newer ones? For example, this set of fillets on fleaBay. I have brocade that is unquestionably old and original. But, then I see bits like this and I can see the gold printing is a bit different.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/BMC-Mini-Coope ... 0005.m1851

i.e. the old brocade I have is deep grooved and the gold is more...substantial? And then you have these, which look similar to the full set that sold last year for an absurd amount of money where the color is just slightly lighter and the gold printing is done a bit more haphazardly.

Give me a history lesson :)

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 Post subject: Re: Brocade question
PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:25 pm 
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There seems to be 2 base vynide colours, 1 has a silver hue the other a blue. It's easy to tell the difference if you can see the back.


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 Post subject: Re: Brocade question
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They don't look right to me...and I've sniffed plenty :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Brocade question
PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:08 pm 
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oops . Didn't look at the link when I replied. Still true about the base colours though. These do look a bit Newton stuck on original backings with a bit of authenticity sprayed on!!


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 Post subject: Re: Brocade question
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The one of eBay is non genuine! Easy to spot. Not only because of the deepness but also the tissue is different! :) Newton stuff.


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 Post subject: Re: Brocade question
PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:12 pm 
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moita wrote:
The one of eBay is non genuine! Easy to spot. Not only because of the deepness but also the tissue is different! :) Newton stuff.



And the gold doesn't line up, old Newton crap.


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 Post subject: Re: Brocade question
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Isn't the seller on here too?


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 Post subject: Re: Brocade question
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:43 pm 
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Definitely remade using Newton.

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 Post subject: Re: Brocade question
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rolesyboy wrote:
Definitely remade using Newton.


Early Newton I'd suggest by the detailing in the gold... well this is a history lesson ain't it?

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 Post subject: Re: Brocade question
PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:13 am 
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Hi

I am the selller of these fillets. After looking at them again you are absolutely right, the fillets has been retrimmed.

I have ended the first listing on ebay, changed the description and relisted them.

Thanks for the lesson in gold brocade, much appreciated as want to be honest seller

Best Regards Kristian

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