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I brought this over from California last year, always wanted a Radford but the time was never right or the car or the price!

It started life as a December '65 Austin Cooper S 1275 in Tweed grey as many Radfords were (it's a neutral colour that tends not clash with the external repaint) and was delivered to Car Mart of Colchester in January '66 which is a little unusual as cars were usually drawn from London dealers if they were off to Harold Radford. Maybe it was the nearest dealer with a Tweed Grey S or where the original owner sourced it from?

Anyways the car went off to Radfords for the Mini de Ville GT treatment with an added Countryman hatch back conversion. The colour scheme as far as I can tell (not took enough paint off it yet!) was Sand (gold!) over black with cream leather trim which is an unusual combo (you weren't the first Rich, sorry! :lol: ). It left Radford and was registered KGU 3D in March '66 so may have rubbed shoulders with the odd Beatles Mini (well that's my story and I'm sticking to it! :lol: ) while it was there. It was converted at the same time as 'AA1000' by all accounts so Radfords were at full stretch I suspect in early 1966!

The hatch is a steel one which incorporates the original bootlid and of course the rear seat folds flat (though not split). The car didn't have a right hand tank fitted I don't think when finished but does now.

When I first saw pictures of it in L.A I could see that the majority of the trim was pretty tired but original (though some of the headling panels weren't fitted) but the dash had been revamped with new wood sections and rearranged a little. Luckily the previous owner (Chris Pegues from Oregon) had kept all the original dash bits, which came with the car.

All the floor's original in Tweed Grey as are the sills but it's had a new front end. The hydro's still good and it'll get through an MOT when I've done a few jobs. It'll need restoring at some point but not just yet. I've had it stashed away since I got it and need to look exactly what I've got engine wise. It's certainly been in bits but still has it's 163 and 333, haven't looked for any Downton markings on it yet.

The main thing I want to do, apart from getting it roadworthy, is have a crack at finding some of the early owners, especially the first! The car came with it's VE60 continuation book on which are four owners, of which I've tracked down one so far, Charles Pinion who was the last UK owner and exprted it to the U.S in 1976. Pinion was from Staines and involved with a business buying and exporting lots of cars to the U.S at the time (J Dunkley Ltd) and also the same man responsible for the Pinion cross flow head for the Mini, he now builds big lumps for Yank Tanks at 'Real Steel'. Another previous owner was a Peter Lilley from Epping and a Maria Oratis from Potters Bar who I think is still in the property game. The first one the book was Maureen Ella Spring (ne Maher) from Heston Middlesex who owned it from '71 - '75.
I know with some cars like this you just never find the original owner but I'm gonna try! Pinion doesn't remember much about it sadly.

One of the first U.S owners was a guy who works for Seven Mini Parts, Auburn, California if anyone is familar with the company? I have exchanged emails but need to get back onto that.
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Like the sound system!! Pretty car....
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Looks great ....why didnt bmc build that style tailgate in to the mini range...it would have made it a much more viable prospect into the 70s ???

Get some cosmic centres fitted!
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Nick W wrote:Looks great ....why didnt bmc build that style tailgate in to the mini range...it would have made it a much more viable prospect into the 70s ???

Get some cosmic centres fitted!

I agree on the hatch, makes for a versatile car, that's a full drum kit! I've not got any Cosmic centres yet. To be honest it's been stuck away for nearly a year so looking forward to getting to grips with it.
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tjw89 wrote:Like the sound system!! Pretty car....
Funnily enough it did get fitted with lots of speakers, front and back so the first owner was certainly a music lover

By the way, the rear number plate was on the car when it went to the U.S (have pics) and it's a very early engraved silverline acrylic job that I think could just be the original. I know they were about in '66 but either way it's been on there a long time.

PS looking for a heated rear screen for it, which has been lost over time, probably cos some silly tw*t slammed the tailgate on a drum kit! :lol: (no not me!!). The MGB GT stays really do snap the hatch shut if you let it go,so it's no surprise the rear screen got busted.
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:shock: Very Very Nice! indeed. :D
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I'm a big fan of that early style hatchback. I think it looks much closer to a factory job than the latter ones.
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Lovely!
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Hi Pete it looks just like mine i wonder if they were together at Radfords may be they are brother and sister ;) will give you a call about the rad.
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Yep,same type of hatch as yours Bri, quite close on production weren't they?

Here's a recent snap of the front, the original Benelite is pretty bent but came with the car. I picked up a better one last year but not fitted it.

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Here's a shot of it from 1989 at a Mini meet in the U.S.. note the BOM ashtray on the dash top. It had another on the centre consol. So whoever ordered it was a keen smoker and music fan. Keith Richards!! 8-) :D

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Pics taking me ages to post but will do more tonight.
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lovely car pete, you know where to come if you want to sell it! by the way keith richards was my neighbour when i was growing up, i could tell a few stories! :o
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Great to finally see some pics Pete, it looks like a brilliant car!
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Yet another beauty saved for decades to come !!!..more pics plse esp engine and internals .... lovely foxy52
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I'd love a coach built comfy Limo Mini one day, looks like a cracker Pete :)
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A real beauty there Pete, you must be well chuffed! Keep the pics coming as and when... ;)
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It's not in as great nik as it might look, quite a few scuffs on it, micro blisters and a healthy crop of stone chips all over the front as no journey is a short journey in the U.S! In fact the previous owner used to wear a bra when he drove it! (the car I mean! :lol: ). (He wasn't trans as far as I know! :lol: ).

The driver's footwell will need some attention for the MOT and all the usual stuff with tired cars, brakes etc but it's solid enough under all the wear and tear, no patches on it anywhere. Both subbys are really good.

Couple of crap photos, the leather needs a feed! :shock: :lol: Note the centre arm rest has been remade, the original came with the car and isn't that bad. Willpost some more pics up of all the bits.

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Inside of the hatch shows the Tweed Grey..

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WMU 211G wrote:A real beauty there Pete, you must be well chuffed! Keep the pics coming as and when... ;)
Yes thanks Nidge, didn't think it was ever gonna happen. I have Ant Hines to thank! 8-) .
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foxy52 wrote:Yet another beauty saved for decades to come !!!..more pics plse esp engine and internals .... lovely foxy52
Nice to repatriate 'em! I'm planning a drive around London in it this Summer. :D :roll: :oops:
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Fantastic Pete, you said it was something special.

Would be great if you could find out who bought it originally.
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Andrew1967 wrote:Fantastic Pete, you said it was something special.

Would be great if you could find out who bought it originally.
I know the feeling. Mine was delivered to the Heathrow area in May 1965 close to Brydor Cars and shares many of the hatchback features of Brian's and Pete's and was registered in January 1966 in Surrey close to where many of the celebrities lived at the time but sadly no definitive records for the first 5 years but I'm on the case, as recently as last Monday!
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