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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:57 am 
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If they turn out to be like many of MWS copies, try fitting or removing tyres! Last time I used their wheels, my local tyre dealer, attempting to repair a puncture, broke his tyre fitting machine, damaged the rim (not his fault) & having finally got the tyre back on, the bead wires were broken. I now use genuine Mambas & can fit & remove tyres myself, without anything more specialised than a pair of tyre levers.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:42 am 
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This happened when a batch of the 6x10 MWS ('Minilite' style only I think) rims had the tyre fitting recess/well cast in the middle of the rim instead of offset to one side, making it almost impossible to fit the tyres without damage........they have supposedly since fixed the problem but there are no doubt faulty wheels still out there on the secondhand market..... although at least the fault is easy to spot if no tyres are fitted.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 6:11 pm 
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Already posted some of these on my 'Introductions' thread, but here is the '60 Austin Seven I have been working on, complete with an original but refurbished set of 6x10 JAP's. Not so sure about the spinners shown earlier personally, but we have actually turned up our own flush-fitting centre caps and had some repro JAP centre stickers made using a pair of original JAP ones i managed to get hold of as a template. Not fitted them yet though.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:20 pm 
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It's a shame they weren't in their original chromate gold or dark grey oxide finish they originally came in.

They also look narrower than 6's compared to my old ones....I'll try and dig out some pics.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:39 pm 
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They also offered a 'de luxe' finish as an optional extra back in the day, which was gloss black with a diamond-machined detailing to the top faces and rim.

This set does not seem to have as deep a dish as the others i have seen (which is why i jumped at them), but they are definitely 6 inches. I have a 7.5inch and 8inch set (both 13inch diameter) for my Sunbeam Stiletto which are a completely different style. These ones look a little bit more like Dunlop D1's and do not have the ring of webbing in the centre like the ones shown at the start of this thread.

Well, they kind of do(see below).


Would be very interested to see your old pictures 'In the shed'. Thanks :)


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:35 pm 
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I'm away from my home computer atm. I'll see if I can dig some out.

My first set were undated, had 12 ribs on the rear of the wheel. (you'll know them if you have them) and had J.A.P. in the ovals twice. They were chromate gold underneath and the ally was very dark mag.

The second set had a plain back (like the 5" wheels) and had J.A.P. in one oval and MAGNA in the other, one wheel (out of the 5) had 1967 in it.

They did 12 spoke ones (like you probably have) which google will reveal. I think these were in 4.5 to 5.5. The 8 spokes were from 5" to 6.5"

I loved them, but when I fitted S brakes....they looked bloody ridiculous.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:32 pm 
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I was lucky enough to find a set of 7 of these in one go, so i had the pick of them to make the set of 4 to go on to the car, plus a spare. Two are still sat in my dad's garage.

All have one oval with JAP in it, then in the other ovals four are dated 1968, two 1967 and one just MAGNA.

I have seen the plain 12 spoke ones, but mine are the 8 spoke variety which i much prefer. I keep saying 'mine' but actually the car is going to be a surprise wedding present for my wife-to-be next month so i guess they aren't mine at all! I will measure them again to double check they aren't 5.5inch and revert. (This could explain why they just about fit under the arches! Perhaps i measured from outer rim to outer rim... :? )

They also did another style, which kind of also had 12 spokes but they are offset into groups of 3. I will attach a photo of my 13inch set (3 x 7.5 and 2 x 8inch) which illustrates this. None of mine have ribs on the back, not even the 8 inch ones.

I will also add a pic of the pair of centre caps i found scouring ebay a while ago... not seen any more of these yet but am still hunting!


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:50 pm 
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dinglem wrote:
Already posted some of these on my 'Introductions' thread, but here is the '60 Austin Seven I have been working on, complete with an original but refurbished set of 6x10 JAP's. Not so sure about the spinners shown earlier personally, but we have actually turned up our own flush-fitting centre caps and had some repro JAP centre stickers made using a pair of original JAP ones i managed to get hold of as a template. Not fitted them yet though.


That's a bony looking car! Well done! The wheels look great aswell. I can't figure Out how they dont stick further out on your car if they are 6 inch!? Im presuming there is no rubbing? They look to have a prety big dish! Id have said they were 5 inch from how far they protrude out..

I've had a few sets of jap wheels in fact I still have a set of 13 by 7(ish).. There are three different designs to my knowledge though! One looks very similar to the other and one is noticeably different..


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 9:03 pm 
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Thanks. I am really pleased with how it has turned out (hope she is too!) :shock:

The three styles should be covered above; 8 spoke, 12 spoke and then the 'alternatively spaced' 12 spoke ones like my 13inch set pictured above.

I have just spoken to my father and asked him to measure the spare rims that are sat in his garage. The car and the wheels have been hidden there for the past month since i collected it following paint... I have only driven those few miles in it (about 20 altogether) since the resto so haven't really checked for any rubbing. It might on full lock; all my Imps rub.

Just re-read the sales patter from the eBay auction from when i bought my Mini JAP's and it says:-

'They are all offset and measure 6 inches between the outside rims'.

I guess if that is from the very outsides then the width between the outer beading could be 5 1/2 inch perhaps? I was very unsure about fitting them as i was desperately hoping they wouldn't require arches to be fitted to the car; thankfully they have just the right dish for the look i was after without sticking out too far. :)

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:58 pm 
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dinglem wrote:
Thanks. I am really pleased with how it has turned out (hope she is too!) :shock:

The three styles should be covered above; 8 spoke, 12 spoke and then the 'alternatively spaced' 12 spoke ones like my 13inch set pictured above.

I have just spoken to my father and asked him to measure the spare rims that are sat in his garage. The car and the wheels have been hidden there for the past month since i collected it following paint... I have only driven those few miles in it (about 20 altogether) since the resto so haven't really checked for any rubbing. It might on full lock; all my Imps rub.

Just re-read the sales patter from the eBay auction from when i bought my Mini JAP's and it says:-

'They are all offset and measure 6 inches between the outside rims'.

I guess if that is from the very outsides then the width between the outer beading could be 5 1/2 inch perhaps? I was very unsure about fitting them as i was desperately hoping they wouldn't require arches to be fitted to the car; thankfully they have just the right dish for the look i was after without sticking out too far. :)



Yeh, you measure the width from the inside of the rim and not the outer! Either way they look great.. I noticed your stiletto is it? In the background.. Very smart! I saw a very similar one at a show in southport once? Are you a fellow lancastrian? so are you rims on your mini brand newies or refurbished ones? I think I've missed that somewhere!?


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