It’s looking like 2030 for E-day

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This will soon be emptied if the journey down the cul-de-sac of electric power is continued

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Ever heard the phase, Don't Put All Your Eggs in One Basket.
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Children paying the price for eco-cars: Congolese miners as young as 11 risk their lives for cobalt that green-tech relies on for £1.50 a day.
"Award-winning photographer Sebastian Meyer reveals pitiful truth of eco cars. He visits Democratic Republic of Congo, home to two-thirds of world's Cobalt. Meagre pay, dangerous conditions and long hours are all part of cruel narrative"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... obalt.html
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Excellent Mab, thanks for posting
Puts things a little more into perspective
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Company wants to dig a Hole in Cornwall to mine Lithium .. otherwise UK have to import this stuff to make batteries .
Is that saving the Planet or just creating Jobs.. whatever someone is onto a nice earner. ;)
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mab01uk wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:56 pm Children paying the price for eco-cars: Congolese miners as young as 11 risk their lives for cobalt that green-tech relies on for £1.50 a day.
"Award-winning photographer Sebastian Meyer reveals pitiful truth of eco cars. He visits Democratic Republic of Congo, home to two-thirds of world's Cobalt. Meagre pay, dangerous conditions and long hours are all part of cruel narrative"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... obalt.html
OMG! Do you also complain about the main use of cobalt in phone and laptop batteries, in electronics and alloys? Only a fraction is used in EV batteries.
Cobalt is a by-product of copper and nickel mining - has anyone ever moaned about the child labour in Congolese copper mines - it is not an EV-problem - it is a problem of how the industry generally exploits without ethical requirements.

That's what the Dailymail should write about, but doesn't. :evil:
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With regards to the, according to some, ever so promising Hydrogen. Can you explain what the actual advantage of hydrogen over battery powered electric cars is?
The hydrogen is produced (currently mainly from methan [!]) using large amounts of electricity, then it needs to be deep cooled and pressurised for transport, again requiring large amounts of energy, such that once it is in a car it is converted into electricity using a fuel cell (which requires rare metals like platinum) to drive an electric motor at the end .
I hopefully do not need to point out the ridiculousness of this energy waste process with all the in-between losses.

H2 though may be a viable alternative for lorries, trains and cars in remote areas (like for example Australia) and where the electric grid is not well developed (Africa).
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Well be reading this post about EV vehicles , MiNiKiN is all for it :lol: :lol: :lol: , some of the older boys like me don't give FOOK cos it won't bother us , younger ones will have to live with it and be more skint than ever , POLUTION , sure i read that the UKs contribution is only 2% of whole world , so why is this country so mad on going green , I know ££££££££££££££££ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ MONEY , well i got the answer !!! see below only eats grass , cheap cheap ;) ;) ;) there is even a lorry for you Minikin :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: and the last photo is a real mini one horse power !!!! Sure i seen this up at Mark's place amongst is treasures :P :P :P
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Goff..
I expect with "TheJab" before Xmas & with the Old Gits to be first in the Q .. there will still be enough years left for either you or me to create a "Works Car" out of that one Horse half of a Mini Shell ;) :lol:
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goff wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:25 am Well be reading this post about EV vehicles , MiNiKiN is all for it :lol: :lol: :lol: , some of the older boys like me don't give FOOK cos it won't bother us , younger ones will have to live with it and be more skint than ever , POLUTION , sure i read that the UKs contribution is only 2% of whole world , so why is this country so mad on going green , I know ££££££££££££££££ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ MONEY , well i got the answer !!! see below only eats grass , cheap cheap ;) ;) ;) there is even a lorry for you Minikin :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: and the last photo is a real mini one horse power !!!! Sure i seen this up at Mark's place amongst is treasures :P :P :P
Goff, you haven't got a clue - the vehicles you showed are highly polutant - emiting loads of methan :lol: :lol: :lol:

Personally, I am not a die hard EV advocate, I just prefer to have a more scientific perspective on things, rather than an opinion biased by my own personal favours. Even without scientific approach common sense tells me, that burning 15.6 billion litres of oil every day* and blowing it into the atmosphere cannot be right.
In actual fact a car (or whatever product) generates a large part of pollution in its production phase.
Hence in my view, keeping, preserving, refurbishing and updating stuff is a really green thing. Sadly not compatible with the principles of neoliberal capitalism. :cry: :cry:

* to help imagination: that equals a fraight train with 260495 average tank wagons with a total length of 3750kms (or 2344mls)
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