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 Post subject: Green To Black
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 8:45 pm 
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Hi all

Anyone know the exact point at which BL changed engine colour from green to black? I know this was around 1971 ish but was it done at a precise engine/body/chassis number does anyone know?

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 Post subject: Re: Green To Black
PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:14 pm 
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Very good question :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Green To Black
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Nothing regarding change points is ever straightforward or definitive. Anyone who claims it is is fooling themselves.

The change from Green to Black was indeed around 1971 but it will have depended on how much stock was used / left over.

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 Post subject: Re: Green To Black
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Oké but why black instead of green,
was the black paint cheaper ?

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 Post subject: Re: Green To Black
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I'd imagine it was either simply change for changes sake, or to ease tensions during the BL mergers. Didn't Triumph have Blue engines? maybe it was seen as 'neutral'?

I imagine the change to yellow / red for the A+ was also just to be a noticeable 'modernisation' in brochures and showrooms.

Maybe green was just becoming seen as 'the same old engine' (which of course it was)?

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 Post subject: Re: Green To Black
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When would have been the last date you could buy a Gold seal engine :?: . Fancied being different and having a Gold painted engine !

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 Post subject: Re: Green To Black
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Goldseal engines were certainly still available in the 1980's.

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 Post subject: Re: Green To Black
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Unipart were still selling Gold & Silver Seal engines in the 1980's including the A+.
Gold Seal Replacement engine numbers:-
http://members.home.nl/mmarx/mini/goldseal.htm

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 Post subject: Re: Green To Black
PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:08 am 
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UHR850 wrote:
Oké but why black instead of green,
was the black paint cheaper ?

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As said the green BMC engine colour was looking a bit old and tired in image at the start of the 1970's (when owners still cared what was under the bonnet!) plus the British Leyland take over was supposed to be the dawn of a bright new era for the British car maker..... (also if I remember right most Ford engines were black at the time and several ex-Ford men had been brought in by the new BL management).


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 Post subject: Re: Green To Black
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My friend who has a very large collection of factory original BMC / BL cars thinks around September 1971 was the engine colour change. I’m inclined to agree with him as I’ve had a totally original Austin 1300 built in August 1971 which had a green unit and I still own an Austin 1300 built in December 1971 with a black unit. :D :D :D

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