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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:39 am 
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Although several people have laughed at the idea, I still believe a 1960/61-built Irish Mini based Special used a 1958 Mini prototype as a base.
So far I'd only found three pictures of the vehicle, but now a design sketch has turned up.
I'd love to hear your thoughts.

You can read more about it here:
https://maximummini.blogspot.com/2019/0 ... kMPxLH0qvU

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:00 am 
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Interesting circumstantial case.

Would be interesting to find the car.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:37 pm 
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Thanks for posting.....Interesting story on the 1958 Mini!

Is the first picture below the only known photo of a 1957 XC9003 prototype actually outside the factory on test?
Also is it the first 'Orange Box' or the second darker deep red car in the second photo below?
Does BMIHT still have any unpublished photos of the early Mini prototypes?
If these two ever turned up as 'barn finds' what would they be worth today...... :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:22 am 
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I'm surprised that Greg H didn't find a few of these.

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mk1 wrote:
I'm surprised that Greg H didn't find a few of these.


I spoke to a chap who said he was building a replica years ago. He seemed quite serious about it and even wanted to turn the engine 180 Degrees.
Nothing heard of him since though.

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:lol: Jeroen, that will be THE barn find from the year in future years :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:03 pm 
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HI
any body know how many prototype mini's where made?, as i was looking through this

Genius and Works: de docufilm over John Cooper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgM7azM_dIE

and at 11.00 min in there is a mention of a prototype take to Italy for testing

regards mike


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Terrapin-52 wrote:
HI
any body know how many prototype mini's where made?, as i was looking through this

Genius and Works: de docufilm over John Cooper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgM7azM_dIE

and at 11.00 min in there is a mention of a prototype take to Italy for testing

regards mike


Was it Italy the prototype beach car was found ???


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Greece wasn't it?


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Terrapin-52 wrote:
HI
any body know how many prototype mini's where made?, as i was looking through this

Genius and Works: de docufilm over John Cooper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgM7azM_dIE

and at 11.00 min in there is a mention of a prototype take to Italy for testing

regards mike


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"As is well known, when the 34bhp Mini 850 was launched in August 1959 BMC's publicity department lent a car registered YOK 250 to racing car constructor John Cooper of the Cooper Car Company Ltd, which operated out of premises in Surbiton in Surrey."
"John Cooper then set about building a fast Mini, probably YOK 250. The work was overseen by long-time Cooper employee Ginger Devlin and featured many components from the FJ engine and allegedly had three times the power of the standard Mini 850 engine, which would be around 100bhp. By 1961 the FJ engine was a 994cc unit developed by Eddie Maher of Morris engines in Coventry."

"The 1961 Formula Junior MK2 protototype pictured below alongside YOK 250 outside the Surbiton works. Presumably YOK 250 is also the car Aurelio Lampredi took for his long excursion at Monza in 1959?"
The cars : Mini Cooper development story:-
"Cooper was so enthralled by the handling of the Mini that he took it to the 1959 Italian Grand Prix held at Monza that September."
https://www.aronline.co.uk/cars/mini/mi ... ni-cooper/

The Austin Mini YOK 250 used as the Cooper prototype alongside a Cooper Formula Junior race car outside the Surbiton works.
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