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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:25 pm 
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There are now loads of cars on the road with different coloured roofs as standard. When did the idea start? Was it with the introduction of the Mini Cooper back in 1961 or does the idea go back further than that and some other car? Does anyone know?

It was a master stroke by the guy who came up with the idea, whoever he was.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:34 pm 
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No idea when it was first used, but there were plenty BMC cars in the '50s with different coloured roof panels. (certainly the various Farina saloons)

American cars were probably first to make contrasting colours a feature, with the rest following the fashion.

I'm sure I read that the works use of while roofs was an effort to keep occupants cool, but surely this is nonsense, as I'm not sure a black roof makes a red or white Cooper noticeably uncomfortable

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:40 pm 
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Lots of yank tanks had duo-tone colour schemes in the 1950's, including contrasting roofs.


Then there are the Gay Look Hilmans including the Minx Californian...

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...and the Vauxhall Velox and Cresta models


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:42 pm 
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Pandora wrote:
I'm sure I read that the works use of while roofs was an effort to keep occupants cool, but surely this is nonsense, as I'm not sure a black roof makes a red or white Cooper noticeably uncomfortable

Al


Were they not just matching the colour scheme of the hard top Healeys?


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:42 pm 
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I think before the advent of air conditioning in even the most basic cars, it was noticeable that hot climate countries often favoured white cars, even when white cars were out of vogue in the UK. White has only recently become popular again in the UK.......

"When RAC Cars asked the DVLA (Oct 2016), it said that 2,833,084 of the country's motors are white, accounting for 9.3 per cent of the total. That's up by an incredible 91 per cent since 2013. And carmakers are cottoning on, especially as resale values of white cars seem to be on the rise. Many brands have now removed white from their list of no-cost colour options, instead charging extra."
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars ... olour.html


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:46 am 
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If your talking about mini's maybe Ralph Broad was the first;

http://www.chrisbayleyautomobilia.co.uk ... y-mini.jpg


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:04 am 
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Ralph was the first for Minis I think, before the Supers / Coopers, before the works used a white roof on a Mini but they'd already been putting white and black hard tops on Healeys and MGs of course.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:44 am 
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I think the theory I mentioned about the works using white roofs related to a big Healey on a 'hot' event - maybe an Acropolis rally, where cockpit heat would certainly be an issue. It's possible the white roof may have helped in this regard, and it was then adopted as the works colour scheme, and then carried over to the later minis etc.

It might have been mentioned in either the Browning, Price or Mowlem books?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:27 pm 
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Here's that photo of the Ralph Broad Mini referred to earlier.
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1961-monte-carlo-rally-mini.jpg

The question about roof colours is further answered by the Sunbeam Rapier (??) in the photo. It's at the back on the right and clearly has a different coloured roof.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 5:20 pm 
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Having had a bit of time to look on the interweb it appears that both Chrysler and Chevrolet had contrasting roof colours on their higher spec models as far back as 1949 and 1950.


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