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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:24 am 
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Supersonic wrote:
surfblue63 wrote:
< Guess what year I was born.



Stuart,

The year of the big snow :D

Alan


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The snow had long since melted before I was around, even JFK had left by then.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:35 am 
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Highnumbers wrote:
Interesting to note -

Currently, the biggest majority of people on this board (45-65 years old), at 62% weren't even of legal driving age during the original Mk1-3 production.


Its a good indicator for this board but probably not for early Mini ownership generally of course as from my experience a large percentage of the older age bracket still don't use the internet so much if at all. It does make you wonder how these cars will be kept or how the classic car 'scene' will look in 20 years time.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:29 am 
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Highnumbers wrote:
Interesting to note -

Currently, the biggest majority of people on this board (45-65 years old), at 62% weren't even of legal driving age during the original Mk1-3 production.


True, but those very cars made great first cheap cars and you had a great fun car from the start. Small wonder that there is a strong affection for them later in life.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:03 pm 
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hit 50 this year, and still wondering how did that happen.

Child of the 70's long summers being run around in the family 59 mini, then a practically new Mk3, come the end of the 70's the mini was traded in and we ended up it A Citroen CX Pallas, now there's a culture change :lol:

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:21 pm 
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It does make you wonder how these cars will be kept or how the classic car 'scene' will look in 20 years time.

It will just move on, most people will become less & less interested in the cars of the 60's & 70's, then the 80's on & on until practically no one gives a toss about car's any more & they are just remembered as a historical anachronism like putting kids up Chimneys or Sedan chairs.

Whether we like it or not, nearly all the cars we love will at some point end up either as iron oxide or melted down to make "something useful" instead.

That is assuming that Trump & Putin haven't reduced the entire globe to a giant smoking radioactive cinder long before.

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....and thats how all our pride and joys started life anyway....as a bit of melted down iron oxide...and the circle of life is complete...lol


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:50 pm 
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mk1 wrote:
It does make you wonder how these cars will be kept or how the classic car 'scene' will look in 20 years time.

It will just move on, most people will become less & less interested in the cars of the 60's & 70's, then the 80's on & on until practically no one gives a toss about car's any more & they are just remembered as a historical anachronism like putting kids up Chimneys or Sedan chairs.

Whether we like it or not, nearly all the cars we love will at some point end up either as iron oxide or melted down to make "something useful" instead.

That is assuming that Trump & Putin haven't reduced the entire globe to a giant smoking radioactive cinder long before.


Well, on that cheerful note - I hope that means I'll finally be able to afford an Aston DB5 in 20 years. :lol:

In all seriousness, as long as these cars are allowed on the road (and even after that point, to some extent), I think there will be interest. It just won't be at the same scale as today. It's no surprise that the bubble for classic cars (of all makes/types) has grown exponentially in the past 10-15 years people reclaim their youth etc, but that bubble will shrink in the future.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:23 pm 
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Looking long term I honestly don't see a great number of classic cars or for that matter interest in them.

Certainly within the next 50 years I strongly believe it will be a very, very niche interest. Look at a few indisputable facts.

1) Governments all over the world are talking about phasing out Petrol & Diesel. OK, it won't happen overnight but as soon as the huge current demand starts to drop, even a little, the number of outlets will decrease & the price will sky rocket. This won't have a huge effect initially, but it will be an inevitable ratchet over a fairly short number of years once it gets going. As the price of fuel goes up, it is inevitable that some people will be "priced out" of the hobby.

2) As driver-less cars become more the norm, something that I see as pretty much inevitable (I never thought I'd say that) . How these and driven cars interact will become a serious issue. The backlash against "dangerous" old cars driven by humans will begin. I can imagine how the Daily Mail will HOWL about selfish "Carbon Burners" putting children's lives at risk.

3) We have already passed Peak Driver. Certainly in the UK the number of people choosing to take a driving test at all has been declining since the late 1990's. As the urban population increases exponentially the need for a personal car for these urban dwellers is pretty much non existent. We have already seen moves to begin the expulsion of private cars from urban centres across Europe. The sensible course of action is reliance on public transport for day to day travel within a city, rail from urban centre to urban centre & private hire or vehicle hire for occasional "odd journeys".

4) Haven't you noticed that people at car shows are getting older! When I was first driving back in the early 80's, pretty much everyone of my age was messing around with old cars of one sort or another. Nowadays with Draconian insurance requirements & extortionate costs, the relatively high performance / efficiency of even the most mundane Granny car & a large number of young peoples apparent inability to do anything that doesn't exclusively involve a screen all reduce the pool of potential enthusiasts for the future.

5) Car's will just become more & more unacceptable. In the developed world cars are already portrayed as a problem where as 50 years ago they were the solution to a problem. I can remember care free drives down pretty much desolate motorways when I was a kid. To see any road with no cars on it nowadays is the exception to the rule, and we all spend far too much time in traffic jams. If the sort of numbers of cars that we are used to in the west are reproduced in the rest of the world then in no time flat there will be no petrol at all, but this won't be an issue as we will all have choked to death on exhaust fumes anyway.

I am NOT saying for one moment that things will change overnight, or not at the moment, anyway. But they will change and I sincerely believe that our obsession will become more & more of a niche interest as the years pass by. Don't think that because you have tens (or even 100's) of thousands of pounds tied up in your pride & joy that the Government won't do anything to you. This is what Firearms collectors thought when their hobby was destroyed a few years ago. The "compensation" offered was minimal & many thousands of people lost fortunes as their valuable collections were turned into unsalable junk over night.

I strongly believe that we as motoring enthusiasts have to face the fact that we are beginning to see the end of our era, & on that happy thought I'm off to work on another anachronism all weekend :)

We're all DOOMED!........DOOMED, I tell you!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:00 pm 
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I'm 25,

and I've had my '66ish' since i was 10...

I think this 'classic car scene' will die out eventually, shows and meets are getting smaller and smaller for numerous reasons.

Its already moved to 80s/90s machines ... sierras, escorts, 106 rallyes... which are the cars of my youth i suppose.


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57 year old, had a mini for 4 years, very little in the way of mini memories, other than see one in a garage as a kid. Have always had a early mustang from 16 years old, the current one from 1983, a very nice 65 GT fastback. I decided life was too short for just the one collector car, bought a 1980 MK1 Fiesta with the standard 1600 Kent engine, the car was a ton of fun, then moved on to the 1962 Austin Cooper. It checks the box for really different in my area, and is even more fun.

There are few British car shows in the Detroit area, no mini show's at all within a few hundred miles, no mini clubs for non BMW mini's, no repair shop's or nearby experts on the marque, no junk yard parts. I have only seen maybe a dozen mini's of all types, have spoken to about 4 owners, none of which had a early mini.

Living the future here, and all is well. It's a little mad max like, in that you have to fend for yourself, but still great fun. Without sites like these it would be much more difficult.


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