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 Post subject: Police Minis
PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 8:39 am 
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As mentioned on the eBay thread, it would be interesting to see what pictures and information exists on the Police minis. I will start off with a famous one of the OKD Liverpool cars, many of which still exist, but please add any pictures or info on any cars you have seen...


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 Post subject: Re: Police mini's
PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:29 am 
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Transferred copy of this from the ebay thread....

Couple more Police Minis in this story that may be of interest.......from the Met when they were located at the old John Cooper garage in Surbiton.
Previously posted here:-
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Clive Abrahams adds, "I joined TDV Traffic Unit at its location at Hampton in November 1967. We moved into our new garage at Hollyfield Road, Surbiton on 1st April 1968. The new garage premises were owned by and leased to the Metropolitan Police by one John Cooper. The same john Cooper of Formula 1 fame, and the originator of the now famous Mini Cooper Car. The first Mini Cooper’s were converted from the standard machines at the premises now occupied by us."
In August 1968 we were supplied with the two Mini Coopers index numbers PYT767F and PYT768F, these replaced Wolseley 110’s, which were being phased out, these had the standard car for very many years. The remainder of our fleet at this time consisted of,

A Daimler Dart
A Sunbeam Tiger
Rover 2000TC’s
Triumph 2000’s
Land Rover 109 long wheel base
Jaguar 3.4s Type ‘s

This later car was destined to be the workhorse of Traffic Division for many years to come. However it had one major draw back. This related to the Area, which our Traffic unit patrolled. This consisted of the outer very rural parts of Surrey with fast open roads
Where the car ruled supreme and also the very urban inner part of Greater London such as Tooting, Balham and Wandsworth, where the manual clutch proved to be very hard on the leg muscles.
To this end the Mini Cooper was brought in to see if it would fill the niche as a more suitable vehicle for the inner London areas.
The main difference was how the vehicles would be used. Normal patrolling practise was for double manned cars. The mini’s would to be single manned with two vehicles patrolling the same area previously patrolled by one. Thus Whiskey 11 became Whiskey 11 and 12.
The vehicles were purpose built for single manned operation. The centre boss of the steering wheel, now redundant as a horn button, was replaced with a speaker / microphone with a small remote transmitter switch on the steering column. This enabled the car to be driven at speed without hands being removed from the steering wheel to transmit messages.
The vehicle had two-tone air horns and a winkless bell all under the bonnet. The standard AT calibrated speedometer head was fitted in place of the standard mini speedometer. Other then that the vehicle was more or less completely standard. We Carried minimum kit in the boot and in the area that would normally have been the rear seat which removed there was a single rotating Blue light fitted. This was mounted on a raised plinth of about 4inches; as to mount it on the roof directly would have been blow the required height for it to be legal. A single Ariel was mounted behind the Blue light. There were POLICE signs front and rear, which could best be described as number plate style. The front can be seen; the rear was above the rear number plate illumination/ Boot handle.
We kept the vehicles for about two years. There were teething trouble with gear selection and brake fade, they eventually moved on to our Traffic Unit at Bow (near the City of London) and then to disposal.
To the best of my knowledge no others were purchased despite an original order for 12. in those days policemen were much larger and taller then today so the were somewhat cramped, but extremely enjoyable to drive through heavy traffic situations.
The picture below is from the Daily Mail and it shows is Eric Molyneaux (who was 6’3”) with Edward Spinks (about 17 stone) who was about to retire after 30 years service. You can see why both were chosen for their physical attributes.

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Gift Set, featuring the two Mini Coopers loaned to TDV in 1968. It is a limited edition of 2000 and were manufactured to mark the 75 years of The Metropolitan Police Traffic Division. They are supplied in a transparent presentation case, with a numbered certificate of authenticity


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 Post subject: Re: Police mini's
PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:13 am 
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Pete says '.........This conversation is exactly why forums like this are useful for info gathering, I've got a heap of cop car pics if someone wants to start a thread. Is Dave Davies still the cop car registrar for the MCR?......' in addition to the other comments on the original thread. It's right that I've written a few/several books Dave (David Scothorn) but they're technical stuff as opposed to story books. If someone was tempted to write it all up I've got a lot of notes that I got from Merseyside while I was restoring mine and comments rec'd when it was in the foyer of the new HQ for a few weeks. But a book would need to be Mini, Cooper and S specific I feel as opposed to the others from the BL stable. That said, apart from the kit btheu carried it seems as though they were as they left the factory with specific kit added and in some forces, doors changed blue to white or white to blue or painted

Dave D is still the registrar but we don't hear much nowadays. Maybe the info has dried up!


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 Post subject: Re: Police mini's
PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:47 pm 
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I was wondering what happened to an ex cop mini....OKD ??? that a mate of mine had in the late 80's. Gary Shaw, from Alderly Edge. It had been re- shelled into a new mk3 shell :( and painted red with a black roof........loads of expensive extras too. I'll look for some pics and hopefully remember the reg.


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 Post subject: Re: Police mini's
PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:50 pm 
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Here's another that belonged to a mate in the 70's


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 Post subject: Re: Police mini's
PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:55 pm 
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Were the first batch of Liverpool Police Ss not E reg with code EPK ***E


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 Post subject: Re: Police mini's
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:49 am 
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spoon.450 wrote:
Here's another that belonged to a mate in the 70's


Dave i had a S ex police car , But a Granada 3000 litre S :lol: :lol: :lol: , When it went like shit off a shovel , flying machine until i put a Perkins 4108 in it , Then it's flying days were over , 0-60 in 1 hr 45 minutes :( :( :( Cheap motoring , I was once asked what it did to the gallon , answer 60,000 in 3 years :o :D :lol: , YEP , i leave it at that.


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 Post subject: Re: Police mini's
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:49 am 
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I've never heard of a EPK series of S cop cars from Liverpool. Could be of course but no one ever mentioned them to me.


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 Post subject: Re: Police mini's
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:31 pm 
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Some more of the OKD series cars


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 Post subject: Re: Police mini's
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SKD series cars:


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