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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 7:51 pm 
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If you are rich and have a classic car dispute, he's yer fella. And (some would say, perhaps unusually for a lawyer) a very nice chap to boot.

Al


"he is known as an aggressive litigation lawyer when his client’s interests warrant that approach. He makes himself available out of office hours to clients.
Ominous......................................


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:49 am 
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Pandora wrote:
There is a common theme here - David Piper v Mark Hales, Stanley Mann v Mrs whats'ername who bought the 6 Litre Bentley and many others: Michael Grenfell of Wilmots Solicitors

http://www.wilmotslitigation.com/about- ... l-grenfell

If you are rich and have a classic car dispute, he's yer fella. And (some would say, perhaps unusually for a lawyer) a very nice chap to boot.

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Interesting

It should not be forgotten that they had to go to appeal to get the right result in the Mann v Brewer case. It is acknowledged that the first trial judge got it wrong. Brewer's husband was supposedly an acknowledged expert and there was no way the car was a real Speed Six - wrong wheelbase IIRC. Stanley had offered to buy it back when their financing started to go awry but they wanted the principal sum and all their repayments back.

Reading the case papers it looks like Tuke always had a strong case against Hood and a pattern of dishonest behaviour was clearly demonstrable. There must be others who have been affected,

In Piper v Hales the Judge took against the journo and with the sweet silver haired old boy with the slightly dodgy memory and in fact only pushed back when Piper tried to force closure on the case during Mark's cancer treatment. In my view there is no way the car should have broken unless it was already shagged. The free rev caused by the dodgy gearbox was well under the redline the cars used for the whole 24 hour. Mark's friends could have paid Piper off - think co author of Into the Red and the owner of the other car on that day at Cadwell - but they knew it was wrong. You will note that certain very high profile events in Sussex don't feature one party as they used to....

Mark would never purposely damage a car - if you want your car ragged mercilessly and broken I suggest you lend one to Whizzo - been there done that ten years ago and footed the 5 figure bill - he couldn't have cared less.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:17 am 
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In Piper v Hales the Judge took against the journo and with the sweet silver haired old boy with the slightly dodgy memory and in fact only pushed back when Piper tried to force closure on the case during Mark's cancer treatment. In my view there is no way the car should have broken unless it was already shagged. The free rev caused by the dodgy gearbox was well under the redline the cars used for the whole 24 hour. Mark's friends could have paid Piper off - think co author of Into the Red and the owner of the other car on that day at Cadwell - but they knew it was wrong. You will note that certain very high profile events in Sussex don't feature one party as they used to....

Mark would never purposely damage a car - if you want your car ragged mercilessly and broken I suggest you lend one to Whizzo - been there done that ten years ago and footed the 5 figure bill - he couldn't have cared less.


Indeed. That whole episode was an absolute disgrace.


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HPP365C wrote:

Mark would never purposely damage a car - if you want your car ragged mercilessly and broken I suggest you lend one to Whizzo - been there done that ten years ago and footed the 5 figure bill - he couldn't have cared less.


:shock: Blimey!


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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 8:58 pm 
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I haven't been following every page of this thread and it's been several weeks since I looked at it.

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I have been trying so, so hard not to comment but I surrender. 'Caveat Emptor' and 'willing buyer and seller' comes to mind ,,,,,,


In 99.95% of cases, I'd agree with this, however, if I recall in this particular case the Tycoon essentially engaged the Dealer as an 'expert' and relied on his advice.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:05 pm 
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J D Classics up for sale due to potential Investor losses of > £20m! Times yesterday and I think Sky on web.
Read all about it.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:54 pm 
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Sky Report Here:

Classic car dealer JD races for funding amid 'fraud probe'

https://news.sky.com/story/classic-car- ... e-11480930

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They've started offloading some of their classic Mini stock on carandclassic.com.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:15 pm 
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Now in Administration

https://www.am-online.com/independents/ ... d-classics


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Can't say that's a huge surprise.

Lets see what happens to classic car prices now ;-)

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