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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:23 am 
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This mag from 1959 is packed with supplier details from about page 11.

http://mk1-performance-conversions.co.u ... _motor.pdf

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Supersonic wrote:
Some years ago we did some research in the 1100 club to establish where parts were made. One big surprise for me was where cylinder blocks and cylinder heads were made. We know that BLMC back in the sixties had foundries at Longbridge, Tipton, Leeds, Wellingborough and Keithley. We believe cylinder blocks and cylinder heads were mainly produced at Wellingborough, although Midland Motor Cylinder, part of the Birmid Group, also supplied vast quantities of blocks and heads. It is possible to tell where a casting was produced, as Wellingborough blocks and heads carried a "W" in a diamond cast into the surface, whereas Midland Motor Cylinder casings had "WMC" or "RMC" along with the date, the year having a code letter.

What have others found?

Alan


The old forge building at Wellingborough has only recently been demolished Alan, it's right next to the railway just south of the station and used to be connected via some sidings.

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pianoforte made the rear quarters (hence the name)

https://www.28dayslater.co.uk/pianofort ... ade.t59612

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Wellingborough foundry used to produce the Cooper S 940 heads, std 940 that got extra machining. Among the other items made were BMC tractor heads and cranks for Bathgate, so geographic location was not a factor.
Got stuck waiting in Wellingborough a few months ago, so went for a wander round to the old foundry site. What a difference and tere are probably more people working there than when it was a foundry.


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Supersonics comment is interesting regarding W in a diamond. How many of us have been raised to believe that it relates to something to do with a 'westlake' patent. Wellingborough sounds more plausible


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AUTOCAR 5 FEBRUARY 1965 – EDITION MARKED THE ‘FIRST MINI MILLION 1965’

Mini related parts supplier adverts in this edition – those in brackets [ ] are aftermarket but of interest.


Coventry Radiator & Presswork Co Ltd (An AE Company) - only mentions supply to AUSTIN Minis (Not Morris)

Repton Foundry Ltd (& Subsidiary Companies), Tipton, Staffs - Flywheel castings 'exclusively' for BMC Minis.

A.P. Springs, Acocks Green, Birmington - Suppliers to BMC.

[Cosmic Car accessories Ltd, Walsall - aftermarket sill guards, rear wheel spats, interior door handles, steering column adjuster, stone and splash guard grille, centre bonnet embellishing strip, mechanical door stay]

Western-Thomson Controls Ltd, Reading - Wax Element Thermostats.

George Taylor & Sons (Accessories) Ltd, Halesowen - No mention of what they supply but they were 'engineers and coppersmiths'.

Sto-Chem Ltd, Bromsgrove - 'Kralastic' window slider catches.

ICI Hyde, Cheshire - Vynide upholstery and headlining.

Engineering Productions (Clevedon) Ltd, Somerset - Suspension knuckle joints. Also had a factory at Prudhoe on Tyne, Northumberland.

[Windshields of Worcester Ltd - Ventilating window supplier. Guessing aftermarket ?]

Improved Hinges (Warwick) Ltd - Sole suppliers of door hinges.

Hewell Springs, Redditch - Spring manufacturer but no specific parts mentioned.

John Bull Rubber Co Ltd, Leicester - Radiator hoses ('on every Mini')

Ewarts Ltd, Dudley - Hot Brass pressings, machining and plating. Petrol taps, drain taps, filters, filler caps, starting handles, car heater components. 'Ewarts products are built into the majority of BMC cars'.

W.G.Allen (Birmingham) Ltd), Wednesbury - Demister tube covers for heater unit.

Stanmore engineering (Diecastings) Ltd, Stanmore, Middlesex - Mini badge surround. Front Austin badge shown.

[J.G. Coates Ltd, Burnley - aftermarket cream central instrument panel]

Linwood Mfg. Co. Ltd, Tipton - Small metal pressings for the BMC Mini.

Qualcast Ltd, Derby - Sole suppliers of Manifolds, cam shaft gears, bearing caps, clutch plates and many of items for BMC Minis.

[K.F.Ward Ltd, Birmingham 'Styla Works' - aftermarket radiator grille, mudflaps, spotlamps, hubcap 'medallions' with spinners, wing mirrors, white tyre trim]

Horvell Products Ltd, Aldridge, Walsall - aftermarket plastic grille cover but available from BMC distributors.

RAB Productions Ltd, Westgate, Aldridge - Brass and steel repetition components from bar. Precision turned parts for BMC Mini.

H. Evans (Pressings) Ltd, Birmingham - pressed parts for BMC Mini.

Delta Repetition Components Ltd, Birmingham - Precision turned parts in all metals. Nothing specific mentioned.

Dart Cash Carrier Co. Ltd, Stoke on Trent - Manufacturers of components for Britain's quality cars including the BMC Mini range.

R.T. Shelley, Greet, Birmingham - BMC Mini car jacks.

Stirling Metals Ltd, Nuneaton - Suppliers of aluminium castings to BMC.

Harrison (Birmingham) Brassfoundary Ltd, Birmingham - parts for BMC Mini but nothing specific mentioned.

Howard Clayton-Wright Ltd, Wellesbourne, Warwick - 'Claytastic' plastic/metal body trim.

Cam Gears Ltd, Hitchin - Rack & Pinion steering rack.

Dunlop - Moulton rubber cone-springs. Moulton 'Hydrolastic' suspension. Wheels, Tyres, Hytone mats, constant velocity universal joints, engine mountings, and Dunlop adhesives.

Triplex Safety Glass Co. Ltd, London - Electrically heated rear screen advertised but obviously all the other glass as well.

Garringtons Ltd, Bromsgrove & Darlaston (GKN Company) - Forgings - gearbox gears and front suspension arms / components mentioned in advert.

Castrol - Motor oil. Advert mentions association with BMC works rally team.

The British Motor Corporation Ltd, Birmingham & Oxford - Presume BMC thought it would also be a good idea to take out an advert! Austin & Morris Minis. Wolseley Hornet. Riley Elf.

Smiths Motor accessory Division, Cricklewood, London - Instruments, heating and ventilating equipment. 'BMC exclusively recommend SMITHS Radiomobile car radio and can also supply supplementary instruments : Oil-pressure, water temperature, tachometers and vacuum gauges for the enthusiast’.

Small & Parkes Ltd, Manchester (A member of the Cape Asbestos Group of Companies) - Every BMC Mini is equipped with a set of 'Don' brake linings for the Lockheed drum brakes.

Automotive Products Co. (Bolton) Ltd - 'AP' supplied Lockheed brakes, steering joints, Purolator filters and Borg & Beck clutches.

Tudor - Windscreen washers, bottle, pump and tubing.

Hardy Spicer Ltd, Erdington, Birmingham - Birfield C.V. joints

[J.W.E. Banks & Sons Ltd, Northants - aftermarket Koni shock absorbers for BMC Mini]

[Turbo-Vac Ltd, Tyseley, Birmingham - aftermarket +Power Turbo-Vac for BMC Mini. 'A whirling vortex snatches spent gases from the exhaust system combating all back pressure'. Snake oil device I think...]

[Cosmic Car accessories Ltd, Walsall - aftermarket light alloy road wheels. 4" J rim section with 1.5" track increase]

Vowles Foundries Ltd, West Bromwich (Member of the Triplex Foundries Group) - Aluminium castings - sand pressure & gravity die and high duty grey iron castings. Suppliers to BMC for Minis but no components specified.

Rubery, Owen & Co Ltd, Darlaston, Wednesbury - Front sub-frame, steel wheels and petrol tank.

[Silencers (Bolton) Ltd - aftermarket 'Ce-Last straight through silencer' with special twin chrome tail...]

[Restall Bros. Ltd, Birmingham - aftermarket BMC Mini van rerar seat]

[Venta Plastics, Coventry - aftermarket front sliding window ventilator cover]

[Exeter Motor accessories - Black leathercloth dash panel fitted in 30 seconds...]

[Churchward Developments, Edington, Birmingham - 'Crossflo rocker cover finned alumium']

[A. Wallace, Waterloo, London - aftermarket, 'we convert your van into a smart safe and more valuable estate car in one day and would be pleased to deal with the tax problems for you, if any...]


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Missed off GKN Bound Brook Lichfield made the sintered gears for he concentric and hoburn oil pumps and the spider drives for the 1275 non S camshaft to oil pump drive


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Westwood made the non locking petrol caps (Primed 2A2164 / Primed 2A2165 / Chrome 8G702), and at least one type of rocker cover (12G121)


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dodge44 wrote:
AUTOCAR 5 FEBRUARY 1965 – EDITION MARKED THE ‘FIRST MINI MILLION 1965’

Mini related parts supplier adverts in this edition – those in brackets [ ] are aftermarket but of interest.


Coventry Radiator & Presswork Co Ltd (An AE Company) - only mentions supply to AUSTIN Minis (Not Morris)

Repton Foundry Ltd (& Subsidiary Companies), Tipton, Staffs - Flywheel castings 'exclusively' for BMC Minis.

A.P. Springs, Acocks Green, Birmington - Suppliers to BMC.

[Cosmic Car accessories Ltd, Walsall - aftermarket sill guards, rear wheel spats, interior door handles, steering column adjuster, stone and splash guard grille, centre bonnet embellishing strip, mechanical door stay]

Western-Thomson Controls Ltd, Reading - Wax Element Thermostats.

George Taylor & Sons (Accessories) Ltd, Halesowen - No mention of what they supply but they were 'engineers and coppersmiths'.

Sto-Chem Ltd, Bromsgrove - 'Kralastic' window slider catches.

ICI Hyde, Cheshire - Vynide upholstery and headlining.

Engineering Productions (Clevedon) Ltd, Somerset - Suspension knuckle joints. Also had a factory at Prudhoe on Tyne, Northumberland.

[Windshields of Worcester Ltd - Ventilating window supplier. Guessing aftermarket ?]

Improved Hinges (Warwick) Ltd - Sole suppliers of door hinges.

Hewell Springs, Redditch - Spring manufacturer but no specific parts mentioned.

John Bull Rubber Co Ltd, Leicester - Radiator hoses ('on every Mini')

Ewarts Ltd, Dudley - Hot Brass pressings, machining and plating. Petrol taps, drain taps, filters, filler caps, starting handles, car heater components. 'Ewarts products are built into the majority of BMC cars'.

W.G.Allen (Birmingham) Ltd), Wednesbury - Demister tube covers for heater unit.

Stanmore engineering (Diecastings) Ltd, Stanmore, Middlesex - Mini badge surround. Front Austin badge shown.

[J.G. Coates Ltd, Burnley - aftermarket cream central instrument panel]

Linwood Mfg. Co. Ltd, Tipton - Small metal pressings for the BMC Mini.

Qualcast Ltd, Derby - Sole suppliers of Manifolds, cam shaft gears, bearing caps, clutch plates and many of items for BMC Minis.

[K.F.Ward Ltd, Birmingham 'Styla Works' - aftermarket radiator grille, mudflaps, spotlamps, hubcap 'medallions' with spinners, wing mirrors, white tyre trim]

Horvell Products Ltd, Aldridge, Walsall - aftermarket plastic grille cover but available from BMC distributors.

RAB Productions Ltd, Westgate, Aldridge - Brass and steel repetition components from bar. Precision turned parts for BMC Mini.

H. Evans (Pressings) Ltd, Birmingham - pressed parts for BMC Mini.

Delta Repetition Components Ltd, Birmingham - Precision turned parts in all metals. Nothing specific mentioned.

Dart Cash Carrier Co. Ltd, Stoke on Trent - Manufacturers of components for Britain's quality cars including the BMC Mini range.

R.T. Shelley, Greet, Birmingham - BMC Mini car jacks.

Stirling Metals Ltd, Nuneaton - Suppliers of aluminium castings to BMC.

Harrison (Birmingham) Brassfoundary Ltd, Birmingham - parts for BMC Mini but nothing specific mentioned.

Howard Clayton-Wright Ltd, Wellesbourne, Warwick - 'Claytastic' plastic/metal body trim.

Cam Gears Ltd, Hitchin - Rack & Pinion steering rack.

Dunlop - Moulton rubber cone-springs. Moulton 'Hydrolastic' suspension. Wheels, Tyres, Hytone mats, constant velocity universal joints, engine mountings, and Dunlop adhesives.

Triplex Safety Glass Co. Ltd, London - Electrically heated rear screen advertised but obviously all the other glass as well.

Garringtons Ltd, Bromsgrove & Darlaston (GKN Company) - Forgings - gearbox gears and front suspension arms / components mentioned in advert.

Castrol - Motor oil. Advert mentions association with BMC works rally team.

The British Motor Corporation Ltd, Birmingham & Oxford - Presume BMC thought it would also be a good idea to take out an advert! Austin & Morris Minis. Wolseley Hornet. Riley Elf.

Smiths Motor accessory Division, Cricklewood, London - Instruments, heating and ventilating equipment. 'BMC exclusively recommend SMITHS Radiomobile car radio and can also supply supplementary instruments : Oil-pressure, water temperature, tachometers and vacuum gauges for the enthusiast’.

Small & Parkes Ltd, Manchester (A member of the Cape Asbestos Group of Companies) - Every BMC Mini is equipped with a set of 'Don' brake linings for the Lockheed drum brakes.

Automotive Products Co. (Bolton) Ltd - 'AP' supplied Lockheed brakes, steering joints, Purolator filters and Borg & Beck clutches.

Tudor - Windscreen washers, bottle, pump and tubing.

Hardy Spicer Ltd, Erdington, Birmingham - Birfield C.V. joints

[J.W.E. Banks & Sons Ltd, Northants - aftermarket Koni shock absorbers for BMC Mini]

[Turbo-Vac Ltd, Tyseley, Birmingham - aftermarket +Power Turbo-Vac for BMC Mini. 'A whirling vortex snatches spent gases from the exhaust system combating all back pressure'. Snake oil device I think...]

[Cosmic Car accessories Ltd, Walsall - aftermarket light alloy road wheels. 4" J rim section with 1.5" track increase]

Vowles Foundries Ltd, West Bromwich (Member of the Triplex Foundries Group) - Aluminium castings - sand pressure & gravity die and high duty grey iron castings. Suppliers to BMC for Minis but no components specified.

Rubery, Owen & Co Ltd, Darlaston, Wednesbury - Front sub-frame, steel wheels and petrol tank.

[Silencers (Bolton) Ltd - aftermarket 'Ce-Last straight through silencer' with special twin chrome tail...]

[Restall Bros. Ltd, Birmingham - aftermarket BMC Mini van rerar seat]

[Venta Plastics, Coventry - aftermarket front sliding window ventilator cover]

[Exeter Motor accessories - Black leathercloth dash panel fitted in 30 seconds...]

[Churchward Developments, Edington, Birmingham - 'Crossflo rocker cover finned alumium']

[A. Wallace, Waterloo, London - aftermarket, 'we convert your van into a smart safe and more valuable estate car in one day and would be pleased to deal with the tax problems for you, if any...]


I wonder how many of these company's are still in Business ????


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:46 pm 
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All the A-Series 'S' type engines were produced at the Morris Engine Plant at Courthouse Green, north of Coventry, The forum link below shares ex-employees memories of working at Morris Engines, Courthouse Green. There are some interesting stories and old photos posted there, which might be worthy of some further research related to S engine production, etc.... perhaps with 'inside' information from the workers who produced them.
Historic Coventry Forum
Industry, Business and Work - Morris Engines, Courthouse Green:-

http://forum.historiccoventry.co.uk/mai ... ats=&var1=

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This is a photo of the engine despatch loading bay (Photo: Les Beard)

Listing below is from the book:-
The A-Series Engine - Its First Sixty Years
by Graham Robson


1951 = A-Series 803cc engine manufacture started in Longbridge, at the re-equipped North Works for the Austin A30 with Zenith carburettor and soon after also fitted to the Morris Minor in 1952 (designed by Alec Issigonis at Cowley, Oxford) but with an SU carburettor this time as insisted by the Morris engineers !

1962 - 1970 = all A-Series 'S' type engines were produced at the Morris Engine Plant at Courthouse Green in north of Coventry = production of all 970, 1071 and 1275cc S engines as designed by Eddie Maher & John Cooper (& early Midget/Sprite 1275cc engines) and the short lived A-Series Diesel.

1963 = Mainstream A-series production moved from North Works to the underused Longbridge, East Works which was re-equipped tp build up to 12,000 engines and transmissions every week for the Mini and 1100 ranges with the ability to also make in-line engines for Midget, Sprite, Minor, A40, etc.

By 1966 = East Works was producing 848, 998, 1098cc to suit demand as required.

In 1968 = East Works also started producing the 1275 non 'S' versions of A-Series for mainstream mass production.

(All 'S' versions of 1275 engine continued manufacture at Morris Courthouse Green, Coventry until the end of production in 1970's)


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