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 Post subject: Re: Portugal IMM 2018
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:50 am 
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Someone already tried to contact the IMM organization directly?

www.portugal.imm2018@hotmail.com

I'll be there as a visitor, but if someone need some help, I'll try to do my best. I know 2 guys who are part of the organization and I can make a call.


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 Post subject: Re: Portugal IMM 2018
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:23 am 
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Every IMM is organised by a new team of volunteers who have probably never been involved such a big project in their lives. What with insurance, licences, method statements, H &B S policies etc .. the bureaucracy is endless.

Professionals in these disciplines are probably essential on the team nowadays, esp in the UK. (One reason why many events have fallen by the wayside).

I expect the organisers are only now beginning to realise the enormity of their commitment, especially financially.

Its a pity that experience from previous IMMs can't be better used.

Personally I find the booking procedure unnecessarily complex as is the actual entry process on the IMM site - memories of Kent here.

I remember the Gaydon IMM run by the Moke Club - some of whose members suffered near breakdowns from the worry.

BEST OF LUCK PORTUGAL
boa sorte portugal


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 Post subject: Re: Portugal IMM 2018
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:46 pm 
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Good to see some of you will be there.
Look out for a Peninne Pullman folding camper with a Spanish number plate on it. There will be cold beer in the fridge!
're. getting in touch with Portugal imm. I made a mistake when booking. Sent them 3 emails and got no response. My daughter contacted them, I think through their Facebook page, and got a response very quickly. Try that.


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 Post subject: Re: Portugal IMM 2018
PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:44 am 
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As one of the two who originally started the ball rolling for IMM 2017 to be held in Ireland I can sympathise with the Portuguese in all that they are going through in hosting an IMM.Hosting an IMM is a huge undertaking and we were very lucky with the team we had to pull off the event as it was.An event of this size needs professional help and we were very lucky that we had a professional event organizer as a Club member who looked after the ticketing and scanning attendees onto the site,we had a member who was a rep for a large hire company who looked after all the facilities and we had another member who was clerk of the course on many rallys and he was site manager and laid out the site.Security was also taken care of by a member who had a background in that field so it really helped that we had that expertise to fall back on which is vital for a successful IMM.
The problem with hosting an IMM is the lack of information and this is something we would like to address in the future.We were lucky that the Belgians who hosted IMM 2016 were very open to us with information on their IMM and we feel that for IMM's in the future this is the way forward to keep them going in their current guise and also to help future host Clubs and would be hosts to know what they are attempting to undertake.
We were also very lucky that we managed to attract a large number of traders and this is all thanks to Jocelyn who worked extremely hard to meet all the traders needs and work with them to make them happy.Traders are a very tricky thing to get right as they really make for a successful IMM as more traders attract more attendees but you need attendee numbers to attract traders(chicken and egg) but we also want to make sure they a great IMM trade wise and finding a happy ground to find a price for a pitch is a minefield and this is where information sharing would benefit everyone.
Aside for the problems of moving site due to circumtances outside our control our organising committee all remain good friends and we have shared a good few drinks together since then and we consider it to be the highlight of our Mini lives which bucks the trend of a lot of IMM's and I think that is down to the way we split up the tasks and who we were lucky to have fill those positions
Another reason we all stayed friends and it can be a dirty word in IMM's is money.We have always stated that we will publish a full set of accounts for a couple of reasons,to show how much an IMM costs to run,to show where the money was spent and to give future hosts an idea of what they are getting into.We hope to have the company wound up before Portugal and give a full account otherwise it will be as much of an account as we.And if anyone is wondering what IMM 2017 cost,it was originally costed at 130,000 euro and we ended up spending north of 240,000.All funded through tickets sales and sponsorship and all vendors,suppliers and floor repairs paid for in full :D and over 13,000 euro given to charities local to the committee members who came from all over Ireland.Our aim was never to make a ton of money but have the best IMM we could and spend more as more money came in and I think we achieved that.
Would I do it again,yes but give me about 10 years :D :D


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 Post subject: Re: Portugal IMM 2018
PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:02 pm 
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Dr.Mabo wrote:
Now we know who is not going to Portugal. But the question was who is going :D

So, I'm going to the Portugal IMM 8-)

so long
the Doc




Yes - I am going spending 4 nights in Vilamoura and then 3 nights in Hotel Cristal Vieira Praia & Spa from the 17 May. Just south of the venue. Let me know if anyone else is staying near by.

I will be flying the flag for the MCR South West. David


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 Post subject: Re: Portugal IMM 2018
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 7:31 pm 
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Well, I was there as a visitor and sadly have to say that I´m still very disappointed.

I drove 300km on Saturday morning hoping to spend a great day, seeing cars and get in contact with other enthusiasts. Particularly I was looking for similar cars as the one I´m restoring ( ´62 van with rear winding windows, modified in Portugal). First thing after arrival was taking was buying a ticket (+ a T-shirt, ball pen etc. for 20€ ). As it was still too early in the morning to enter, I could not enter and took a walk to see all these vast variety of Minis from outside the fence of the camping site. I spotted one of the vans I was looking for and got in a even better mood.

When we finally could enter, first car I saw was an MKIII Capri, MkII Escort and some BMW Minis... passed by several food stalls, wanting to enter the camping site to see cars. To my big surprise I was not allowed to enter! Not even allowed upon invitation of "inner circle members" of the event, registered participants who booked a place on the camping.

After eternal discussions, the organization offered us to pay another 75€ !!! to enter... we refused in thanks

Summing up, I made 600kms that day (in my other classic car, which was the only positive point) and went to Praia da Mira for nothing. No new contacts, no nice pictures, no great day, no nothing. This was definitely not an attractive event for visitors and I really hope that future event organizations will take care of giving the possibility to visitors to participate in the event not only from the other side of the fence.

To be fair I have to say, that finally they gave my money back.


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 Post subject: Re: Portugal IMM 2018
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 12:20 am 
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I enjoyed my time in Portugal. The previous message is correct there was an internal mini camping area behind closed doors unless you paid €75 or a free 150m road area where you could see some cars and buy autojumble.

A number of Portuguese mini enthusiasts were also disappointed. They basically had to pay €75 each to see minis..... which a lot of them didn’t expect or think was a good idea and so stayed on the road outside of the event.

The organisers say it is a weekend mini community event not a show - but the day tripping mini enthusiasts say it is a €€€ rip off and waste of time. So a balance needs to be struck in future events - where ‘day’ activities include all mini enthusiasts who are not camping and can’t afford €75. And perhaps ‘evening’ activities are for the campers only.

Overall the people are nice, roads are good, the beaches are good, the food is good and there are some really good minis in Portugal.

Roll-on IMM2019 Bristol.


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 Post subject: Re: Portugal IMM 2018
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 8:10 am 
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I seem to remember Kent struggled with the difference between the IMM and "Mini 55", with some areas of the site being off limits to Mini 55 day visitors.

I've never understood the difference between the two events.

And if there is a legitimate difference - why ?


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 Post subject: Re: Portugal IMM 2018
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 9:58 am 
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I really hope the IMM 60 organisers take particular note of this problem. It is probably more important than ever with it being the 60th anniversary.
Birmingham Mini Owners Club got it right with the IMM / Mini 50. A good combination of an IMM with day visitor access for "locals".
To charge 75 euros for day trippers is extortionate. No wonder the local Portuguese enthusiasts were pissed off.


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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 11:01 am 
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